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PostSubject: SORT OF INTERESTING   SORT OF INTERESTING EmptyTue Oct 20, 2009 7:22 pm

MORE INTERESTING THAN FUNNY...
i knew someone that went to a training camp that trained people to
get used to being 'jumped', which nurtured a fast response to such
scenarios pertaining to fighting.

this is just a wake-up prank but people's reactions are interesting. they're
completely shutting down, backing up. it made me think of how one could
train to make the response counter intuitive and attack...strange i know,
but that's what came to my mind. one bloke is shown a scary image and
falls off his bed onto his arse. interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1bPWHQkD4E&feature=popt00us0b
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PostSubject: Re: SORT OF INTERESTING   SORT OF INTERESTING EmptyWed Oct 21, 2009 12:49 am

I agree.

What if you are attacked while asleep?

Maybe not as relevant in a home that you can secure properly - though it could be - but in hotels and so on...

In any case I figure that by and large, a flinch is a flinch. Asleep or awake, it is a response that reflects something fundamental about someone's character.

Maybe calling it a "flinch" is imprecise. What the people in the video was doing was not strictly a flinch was it? A flinch in my opinion is the reflexive and mostly involuntary IMMEDIATE and SHORT protective action the body initiates when shocked. If eye-blinking is anything to go by, it is possible to condition most of this reflex away.

But if it is or isn't you should still have full capacity to attack AFTER the split-second of flinching if it happens. Sort of like startling a bear and having it immediately return the favor. It's not like the bear goes "eeeeek" running in circles around in the room. Laughing The people in the video flinched, and kept going in the direction of fearful avoidance. Only attacking because they were cornered.

A response that reflects something fundamental about someone's character...

There are people who would immediately start beating the hell out of whatever woke them like that. From something about their character. Cultivating that sounds like a good idea. But conditioning a new reflex when startled like that should work.

Working it in by sheer drilling.

Lay down, relax - REALLY relax - have a partner with a pad "wake" you, and immediately attack.

I would want a more specific and tactically decisive thing than beating a pad though. Maybe a run through the Beta-8 phases - of course different variations of the drill could focus on different training-goals.


As a side-note; when training, I,e hitting bags. I've often fucked up or if playing, run out of stuff to do. Common to these situations, there is an immediate feeling of confusion. When noticing that, I started to conditioning myself to always do the first and best attack available from whatever position I found myself in at the time. Doubt? BAM!

This sounds like something similar.
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PostSubject: Re: SORT OF INTERESTING   SORT OF INTERESTING EmptyWed Oct 21, 2009 11:43 am

Makes me think of what Geoff Thompson (I seem to be talking a lot about him lately) called ingraining a 'positive reaction'. By positive he means aggressive and assertive. It is essentially going through a process of removing the flight response and replacing it with 'fight'. There is a downside to ingraining such an instant response though; once it's hardwired in, the nervous system can't really discern between appropriate and inappropriate situations. I've been there many times where I've responded with aggression where it wasn't needed.

For example...

Several times a week, our 19-month old boy gets into bed with us. I don't mind when he farts in my face as he lays between us... it's actually kinda funny. But there are (many) times when he'll toss and turn and smack me in the face with a backfist and sometimes he'll be at such an angle that he manages to thrust-kick me in the head (you wouldn't beleive how much power is in that kick of his). And every time, even though I KNOW it's just him (i'm under no illusion that i'm being attacked) I still always growl and snarl like a beast and shoot up into a sitting position.

And then there was the time some kids thought they'd 'happy slap' me on the bus. They basically just slapped me round the head as I sat there (on the upper deck of a London double-decker) minding my own business and tried to run off the bus. If I was a normal person (like their other targets I'd imagine) I'd have been in total shock and would have just sat there doing my little WTF transderivational search. But instead, either I teleported through space-time or I blanked out with rage because the next thing I remember is kind of snapping out of this altered state to find my self off the bus on the street with a handful of one of the kid's shirts and was almost lifting him off the ground. His friends kind of walked off while pleading with me and he started to flake out so I just let him go. My shopping bags were still on the bus too and I luckily jumped back on before it moved off. Everybody on board was in total shock except for a couple of guys who were congratulated me. They said "Facking happy-slappers. They didn't look too happy after you grabbed 'em".

It goes to show the effectiveness of one of my fave drills. There are two trainers with focus mits and one guy with gloves on. All that happens is that the trainee will be doing pad work with one trainer and the other trainer has to (without warning and at a random time) come from the trainee's blind-side and shove him hard. The trainee must then instantly turn and start driving forward with punches in the new trainers pads. Maximum aggression. Growling and everying. The other trainer then does the same (or can smack the trainee instead of shove him) at his own time.

I also think that simply practicing to pre-empt from a relaxed state also ingrains the instant aggression trigger switch pretty well...
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PostSubject: Re: SORT OF INTERESTING   SORT OF INTERESTING EmptyWed Oct 21, 2009 11:46 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOOCi3vWt8

Classic
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PostSubject: Re: SORT OF INTERESTING   SORT OF INTERESTING EmptyWed Oct 21, 2009 6:00 pm

Sharif H wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOOCi3vWt8

Classic

NICE REFLEXES


check out this BROWN-STREAK moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VnxRGIa-zM&feature=popt00us15
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