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Nah Sergei you are right mate Im pretty sure thats what I said... I remember seeing this a few years ago and being fascinated by the idea that the mob would hire a serial killer to do their work for them... I think one of the services on offer was to have Kuklinski video your target being eaten alive by rats.

Richard Grannon wrote:

I think one of the services on offer was to have Kuklinski video your target being eaten alive by rats.

Oh my...that really is weird. And he talks so normal...like its normal business. I´ve seen a few documentaries about serial killers but in most cases is was obvious that they were weirdos, living in their own reality. I never found something that really showed how such things develop. In this (and other cases) its only like "my father was evil". Id love to know far more than that about the backgrounds. So if anyone has good books or clips or websites please let me know. Always nosey to see what the triggers for extreme behaviors are.

Got the book by... Not sure what his name is but Carlo something. Titled "the iceman." Although there are likely a few exaggerations and tall tales, more than enough is probably true. Some guy in a bar offends him. He wants to kill him right there but decides he doesen't want to get banned from his favorite pub so he waits for him outside. Sees the guy sitting in his car sleeping so he throws in a molotov cocktail and burns the guy alive. Kuklinsky said he'd kill people for just looking at him wrong, or having the wrong tone of voice with him. I think these cases was mostly when he crossed into the city hunting bums and the like, not when he was doing something "work related."

It's why I like the quote by someone I can't remember the name of "conduct every traffic stop while extending the olive branch of peace while having a tactical plan to kill everyone in the vehicle." Very similar to some similar quote I dropped a while ago. (Be polite. Be professional. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.) But it gets the meaning across in a different way.

You really know anyone. No reason to go paranoid though. Some good SOP will probably serve us better. (I.e., awareness, fence-criteria, staying capable of hard fast violence, etc..)

Sergei

i just remembered: I said walk "placidly" not "tepidly"... as in "Go placidly amid the noise and haste" from Desiderata

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People are pretty much "command orientated" operating systems... when you start to appreciate that the processes that you see guys like Derren Brown doing seem much more eyes straight forward and less mysterious or closed... the thing is blink and you'll miss it.

Drill: see how many people you can get to touch their nose by saying a sentence with an embedded command using linguistic ambiguity... say a sentence like "you know he knows (nose) what to do" and make brief eye contact on the key word and casually scratch the side of your nose... like it needs to be itched... and if you just had to itch your nose, know you know(s) it works.

You can do this in seminars with students as a test to see who is in deep rapport with you and who needs more attention. So if your training with me, watch for it. The ones who are really listening/trusting you will follow immediately and unconsciously.

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in order for it to slip in under the persons radar you need to be completely at ease when you do it... any hint that you are "looking for a response" will switch the person into a more vigilante mode (in response to you acting funny) and you will get weaker results... just keep going with it

I was listening again to the Malcolm Gladwell "Blink" book on cd again yesterday whilst on a long drive back from a seminar and he mentioned a psychology test done that proved that people could be made to walk more slowly just by having the words "slow" "Old" Bingo" and "wrinkle" suggested to their unconscious!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29

http://www.apa.org/publications/results.html?cx=004712435678442832158%3Al289yh6v7qa&cof=FORID%3A11&q=subliminal+priming+and+persausion&na.x=16&na.y=13#955

just read some of the abstracts

gladwell site : http://www.gladwell.com/2006/2006_10_16_a_formula.html

Really interesting stuff.

I ended up watching the entire show from youtube