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PostSubject: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptySun Jun 08, 2008 6:02 pm

Hi

I just got a kettlebell last week from a guy in cheshire

anyone else use them?

bloody dangerous coz they are so much fun while you are doing the workout you dont realise how much you are fookin urself up! my sleeping, eating and pooing patterns have gone crazy

in short, this seemingly faddish bit of nonsesne that Ive avoided and resisted for the past 3 years is actually really fookin good!!!

get one, but take it slow

I must go now, Ive got the KB shakes again drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptySun Jun 08, 2008 6:05 pm

http://www.wuming.co.uk/faq.html

very nice people, if you live in the north west you can drive down and pick one up from them
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptySun Jun 08, 2008 9:45 pm

KBs are great

great fun to use too, I've got 3 that live on my patio, I dont use them enough though
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 12:27 am

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my sleeping, eating and pooing patterns have gone crazy

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 12:33 am

KB's are great. I've found three basic exercises; the two hand swing, turkish getups and long cycle clean/press can give you great results in functional strength increases... add some neck and abdominal work and you're set.
Many folk use KB snatches as one of their basic exercises, I never liked them much and found the above works for me as a good basis for conditioning.
What sort of routines are you doing?
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 10:47 am

im doing just the 3 exercises that Loki showed me while he was over in London

1.swing
2.clean and press
3.swing

he tried to get me to do turkish get up, but with 20 kg I just couldnt hack it-lol!

then in between the sets of KB im doing normal stuff like burpees, shadowboxing, pressups etc

I find that KB keep your heart rate higher for longer after the set is finished, so overall as part of a circuit it really accelerates your return on investment
ie you get lots more calories burned in a shorter time frime
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 3:14 pm

Glad you posted this Richard. Been looking to get one from Made4Fighters.com for a while now -allbeit I will buy from Wu now as I greatly admire people who focus on a product and really aim to provide a good service with it. Went into my local supplement/body building shop in Brighton yesterday only to find they don't stock any for me to gauge what weight I need.

What weight is yours? Is it best to opt for one that feels heavy or light for you? Where can I see a list of exercises for kettlebells?
-EDIT just read the website no need to answer now Razz

So many questions cheers

I first got interested in kettles when I heard that the main actor for 300 trained with one using it to build sword arm strength.
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyWed Jun 11, 2008 6:22 pm

KB's are fun....I use them in my workouts at the gym. Here is a link if you want some sample exercises for them!

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html

Enjoy!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyThu Jun 12, 2008 8:40 pm

I occasionally use my friends KB's. Often I just replicate the KB movements with DBs, since DBs are available every gym that I go to.
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyThu Jun 12, 2008 9:14 pm

Rich, i have been using the kb's for a while now try doing swings but release the kb at its highest point of the swing and catch with your other hand straight into the swing again. this will work your fast twitch mucles.

i do it as a tabata
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyFri Jun 13, 2008 9:14 am

swinging it, flipping it, swapping hands for a tabbata so you are really knackederd and out of brearth with a lump of steel flying over your head?

this is madness... THIS IS TABATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Razz Razz Razz
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Hi rich, i don't flip it as i can never catch it and leave go/swap hands when my arms are straight out in front of my body.

leaving go of a kettle bell over my head, bloodyhell mate i would have to have a death wish
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyFri Jun 13, 2008 3:52 pm

Been working on the juggling latley (One arm swing, make it flip 360 then catch it with other hand, repeat), very fustrating
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 10:39 pm

I love KBs. You should get Enter The Kettlebell by Pavel. It will get you in shape in no time. Here is a helpful website that has loads of good info on KB's.
http://www.artofstrength.com/Default.aspx


That site sells a workbook that follows ETK.
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 4:50 pm

Can't afford kettlebells right now.

However, you can improvise with sand bags or a say a backpack with weights in it.
Gallon jug of water weighs 8 pounds, and comes with it's own handle.
Just a couple of ideas, I'm sure you can come up with a lot more.

Just a thought for broke people who can't afford this kind of stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 16, 2008 6:09 pm

As I am, I'm in good muscular shape atm. Should I be going for slightly more than their recommended 16kg, maybe 18/20?
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If you are already involved in strength training/endurance then 20kg and 12kg respectively may be worth considering
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However, there are very few people who need to start with this weight (e.g. athletes). Safety first!
Safety? Am I going to wrench my muscles or dislocate a shoulder or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 16, 2008 6:14 pm

who are you quoting from in this thread mate? i cant seem to see it

how heavy are you and how much weight do you lift normally? - if you dont mind me asking

Im just shy of 16 stone and despite being a bit of a walrus Ive been doing weights for years and 20kg is going to take me a good couple of months to get used to... particularly my forearms, you dont want to get a kb that your forearms fail on, also it depends on your training goals

i think the opportunity for injury with kbs is bigger than free weights and free weights more than machines for obvious reasons

in answer to your question you could do yourself a hurty, certainly
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 16, 2008 9:53 pm

Ahh sorry about the quoting Richard, thought it may cause some confusion, was quoting the Wu website themselves.

Im 13 stone atm. I comfortably free bench press 80. Curl like 22s, shoulder press 30s e.t.c

Sounds like maybe I should go for 16 then.
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyMon Jun 16, 2008 11:38 pm

i think coz your still boxing competitively, 16 kg kbs would be enough at your weight, but mate I am NO expert Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyTue Jun 17, 2008 1:12 am

Pavel Tsatsouline recommends starting with a 16kg if you benchpress under 200 pounds, a 20kg if you bench over 200 and a 24kg if you're a powerlifter.

Personally, I find about zero relationship to benching and kettlebell weight, probably
deadlifts and clean&press would be a better indicator.
I started with a 12kg bell, after about 8 weeks progressed into a 16kg.
I've been using it awhile and I'm looking to get a 20kg bell (mostly for swings)
I max bench 200lbs, but I'm old and little (50 years, 10 stone)
YMMV (Your mileage may vary) Smile
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I really beleive most people should start with the 12kg-16kg just to get all the technique right. I started at around 8-12kg!
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didnt i hear you say you are now loking to get a 40kg kb?
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyTue Jun 17, 2008 11:12 am

I am looking for a 48kg one, all the KBs i have are made by a steel company (They dont know what the hell are those!)


I wont tell this to the Pavel guys though, I will look weak bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them?   Kettlebells- just got one- anyone else use them? EmptyTue Jun 17, 2008 8:42 pm

Loki: http://www.made4fighters.co.uk/product_detail.asp?prod=560

Its £120 but it's what you wanted, hope it helps.
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Hey Southpaw,

I know I can get it off the net but the reason I get all my KBs made by steel company is cuz they wont ship to where I live.

Thanks for the site though, might pre order some of the Figurines Very Happy
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