Tony Blauer videos

Rich',

I remember that you have placed links for several of these ones on your site. This is an upgrade ( sort of speak ) :

1° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_HicksLaw.wmv
2° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_PreContactCues.wmv
3° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_Train4Ambush.wmv
4° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_PrimalTactical.mov
5° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_SpearIsBridge.mov
6° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_Flinch&1st2secs.mov

7° - https://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=DynamisGym
( 25 videos Blauer/Spear )

8° - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QkJGxPytQI
9° - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpEQICb-9Sg
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerATMStrategy.mov
10° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_BearHugDrill.wmv
11° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauerHighGear_HighContactDrills.wmv
12° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerControlTacticsIntro.wmv
13° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_SPEARvStrPunch.wmv
14° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_ElevatorSaftety.wmv
15° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_WorksOnce.wmv
16° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerAttackFromCar.wmv
17° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_ECTinGuard.wmv
18° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_ClosedHandOpenHand.wmv
19° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerArnoldTakedownDefense.wmv
20° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerSavingPrivateRyan.wmv
21° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitBlauer_SplayedFingers.wmv
22° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerArnoldSurviveAmbush.wmv
23° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerTraining4RealCombat.wmv
24° - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_BlauerWhyStartleFlinch.wmv

Very cool. Thanks for posting.

Nice one Serge

quick glance, picked number 23 of last lot at random: very interesting stuff as always from Tony Blauer

yeah, thanks for putting all these in one place. will be revisiting these lots

wow, thanks alot!


Highlights for me so far have been 11,14,16 just for the real world application shown within the actual videos.

In 11 showing fully suited up.Within that i like the Being corner by a bigger guy and pinned against a wall, the attacker picking up an object (ashtray/cup) from the table, showing how to deal with a blunt object (the pipe), and lastly the attacker even usuing the chair he was sitting on.

In 14 i liked that they actually went to a building and got into an elevator. Learned a few things about that (the buttons dont always equal the power).

In 16 with the car setup it also debunked a few things for me about the whole running away bit. Now it seems alot better to gimp up the attacker incase hes an olympic sprinter that mugs people on his off days.


Just my 2 cents on what i got from them on just my first viewing.

Cheers for posting

some of his stuff is pretty interesting although someone recently made an important point (can't recall where). if you're 'aware' there won't be a flinch and the flinch that Blauer advocates is rigid. i.e. a genuine flinch wouldn't form the basis of what blauer is teaching.

i'd be interested in hearing others thoughts on this..

Finlayson wrote:

Cheers for posting

some of his stuff is pretty interesting although someone recently made an important point (can't recall where). if you're 'aware' there won't be a flinch and the flinch that Blauer advocates is rigid. i.e. a genuine flinch wouldn't form the basis of what blauer is teaching.

i'd be interested in hearing others thoughts on this..

Im no expert and not claiming to be, but i think atleast from what i got from it that he uses the flinch as a type of "fence" in the face that in an actual situation its more of a mindset that you have to train to go hand in hand with the fact that nobody really wants to get hit so they atleast attempt to move.(People not wearing seatbelts arms usually hit before their heads)

I also think that in his "when you get blindsidded" drills that alot of that is after effect. Being that after your already hit and your body naturally flinches you then pick up on the mindset and your higher level skills, like when richie did his bit about clinching your jaw when a sucker punch comes in and then working from there.

cheers Hunter.

i think the first point you made explains the fence but still not sure on the flinch. i agree that in a car crash the arms may well raise themselves in a flinch but not in any kind of set form that blauer appears to put forward.

2nd point you made sounds spot on.

similarly, i'm no expert (far from it) just observations.

Finlayson wrote:

cheers Hunter.

i think the first point you made explains the fence but still not sure on the flinch. i agree that in a car crash the arms may well raise themselves in a flinch but not in any kind of set form that blauer appears to put forward.

2nd point you made sounds spot on.

similarly, i'm no expert (far from it) just observations.

Yea after reading more into it im seeing where your comming from. A typical flinch would be more like a Flail of the arms to cover the head, and not a complex move as in stepping into a punch and avoiding it. But im sure someone will be able to explain it, or atleast Tony wouldnt be teaching something that isnt totaly justified to him.... (i hope )

From what I've gathered, Tony's system is based on the "startle flinch" response - he shows a slide of some people at a baseball game flinching! The concept is to take that instinctive reaction and modify so it can be applied to defense. Just my humble ovservation!

Serge, Thanks for posting

I'm no expert but from what I understand of Blauer's SPEAR system, the startle/flinch mechanism is a "trigger" for the SPEAR response.

If I've got it right, Blauer breaks the flinch/SPEAR response down into 3 types;

Primal flinch, where even if you know an attack is coming, but the attack is too fast or aggressive you instinctively flinch by putting your hands up to protect your head and turn away from the threat.

Protective SPEAR where you flinch from the threat but have enough time to recognize the attack and begin to
lower your center of gravity and face the threat with your hands up; blocking defensively.

Tactical SPEAR where you anticipate the attack from pre-contact cues and from a passive stance with the
fence up, drive forward and strike the attacker with a slightly extended forearm across the upper body with the
both hands open to form a spear shape. The "off" side hand is to be used in a follow attack fashion.

yet another 2cents

nix,

thanks for breaking it down. looks good on paper. would be interesting to see how it performs under pressure testing. i imagine in reality it would probably all go out of the window and it would be as follows...

stage one: flinch
stage two:
stage three: hit

Finlayson wrote:

Cheers for posting

some of his stuff is pretty interesting although someone recently made an important point (can't recall where). if you're 'aware' there won't be a flinch and the flinch that Blauer advocates is rigid. i.e. a genuine flinch wouldn't form the basis of what blauer is teaching.

i'd be interested in hearing others thoughts on this..

I made that point recently on the SP forum, it shouldnt really be called a "flinch" it should really be termed a generic combative response or functional response. But when you slip back out of nerdy nitpicky mode (I love nitpicking linguistics and can be a pedantic nerd if I dont check myself) back into what we know deep down happens when it goes off in the str333tz, for real, in the hood, in the ghetto, in the prison showers etc it doent really matter... would someone drilling that system for 3 months do better with it than without it- I definitely think so! Is it better than most of the stuff out there that claims to train you to deal with the same or similar situations? Definitely.

Also agree with the point (if I slip back into nerdy mode) that the street fight model of two men face to face and one throws a punch and the other covers or SPEAR's it is in fact FAIRLY redundant in terms of "actual situational application" but a useful model for explaining a concept and a principle and even for drilling skills (as show in clip 23)...

the reason I say its redundant is that despite the fact that 99.999999% of martial arts/RBSD systems drill from this "face to face, one guy moves and one guy responds" MODEL of reality (its just a model with functional value- like anything we do) doesnt match any experience of violence Ive ever had or seen... ever.

BUT, the advantages far outweigh the ... I wont even call them "disadvantages" because I cant see how training that way would hurt a students capability... they arent disadvantages they just arent training bits I would steal

I like it because
-it is rooted in awareness
-it is rooted in the concept of preemption
-it causes pain and affects the opponents structure and takes control immediately
-it is all about hard combative human to human contact- all the drills look like people fighting so its a winner for me

Richie's two cents chucked into the SPEAR jar

Quote :

Primal flinch, where even if you know an attack is coming, but the attack is too fast or aggressive you instinctively flinch by putting your hands up to protect your head and turn away from the threat.

Protective SPEAR where you flinch from the threat but have enough time to recognize the attack and begin to
lower your center of gravity and face the threat with your hands up; blocking defensively.

Tactical SPEAR where you anticipate the attack from pre-contact cues and from a passive stance with the
fence up, drive forward and strike the attacker with a slightly extended forearm across the upper body with the
both hands open to form a spear shape. The "off" side hand is to be used in a follow attack fashion.

from primal through protective to tactical as the precontact awareness is raised, never seen that before, thanks Nix

I really like the Spear concept and actually used a sort of half Spear effectively and very automatically; albeit in a very specific situation where someone rushed me from the side attempting a tackle/shoot takedown.
My forearm caught them on the trap/shoulder/neck area as I angled off. Takedown attempt ended there.
but....

Quoting Mick Coup on another thread https://streetfightsecrets.darkbb.com/general-f3/progressive-force-t304.htmr referencing Forward Drive;

Quote :

See if you can give a couple of weight divisions away and still do it, unfortunately it's low percentage stuff - favouring the strong and heavy.

I'm 140 lbs and don't feel really confident about flattening someone via Spear in a strictly face to face situation.
I'm hoping to do PDR(Personal Defense Readiness) training with the Blauer Tactical folk, I'll see how it works for
lightweights in their training scenarios.

SPEAR concepts are excellent, as is most material when used within the correct context, in order to achieve the required objectives - not just the desired ones.

Against a man shooting in, or tackling high, what are the actual objectives? Simple really: to stop them securing a hold - nothing more. A common mistake is to try and stop the person - and this is where so much material fails, because nowhere in the actual objective does it stipulate having to stand your ground and resist the forward momentum of the aggressor. If you weigh in at 140lbs, then although I have at least an extra 100lb on you, I am going to struggle against your weight plus momentum and I am going to expend unnecessary energy and tie myself up in the process.

The concept of 'covering' that I employ is to place something durable between the threat and the target and it can be applied to grappling 'shoots' and 'tackles' or to incoming strikes - in fact the gross physical movement profile of both is almost indistinguishable at the initial stage, so rather than attempt to be unrealistically diagnostic at this point, I advocate a generic core response to cater for either eventuality.

Against the man rushing in, so long as you get your arm/arms into a structually sound 'shape' as seen on the clips above, don't worry too much about being displaced by his forward movement - the objective is not to get grabbed, not keep him away. Remember that you are more in control of your own position than you are of the assailant, so better to allow yourself to be moved with control, than fight it and be moved anyway without control.

If I swung a huge sucker punch at you, expecting to stop it dead with some form of cover is rather ambitious - and unnecessarily difficult not to mention damaging, most likely to both of us. The actual objective is to stop it hitting your head, not to stop it dead in it's tracks - so if you get bounced sideways with the impact, so what? You got something durable inbetween the threat and the target and most likely still have your arms intact - objective achieved.

Same goes for when you are using your hands for some form of situational control, when in a contact-management situation pre-combat - trying to forcibly shove someone back to maintain that crucial reactionary gap is real low-percentage stuff, and ties up so much effort, and associated time, that you are vulnerable in the attempt. Why not just push yourself away? The objective is to create space is it not? You can push yourself away from the biggest heaviest man with nearly no effort at all - in complete control - whereas generating enough force to push him away is doubtful from the start, and if you do manage it consider who now appears to be the aggressor...

Mick

Thanks for the excellent post Mick!
Very insightful as my ego does get in the way regarding the desired overall conflict objectives and required ones.
"... gotta lay them out to win" where just not getting badly hurt is the real win.
Your "covering" concept with stated objectives makes huge sense. Seemingly obvious but is a real eye opener
for me.
Thanks again.

I just took a PDR seminar last month in syracuse. It was VERY insightful and the spear DOES work. In all applications? not necessarily. But it is a great tool.

i think with most of these called systems...

its the most effective way of quick learn fighting.. nice for army, police etc..

but like krav maga.. if you see the background of the guy is champion jiujitsu, sambo, boxing etc etc.. and than combine with normal militairy self defence.. and name it commando krav maga..
its like a proffecional bodybuilder who sells things on tell sell, and say you become that musceled from the toy..


personally, i think it is a perfect way to teach beginners how to avoid surprise attacks..

its all about the basics