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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptySun Apr 05, 2009 9:33 pm

Richard,could you please give a run down of the video.
Do you Agree/Disagree with its assertions?
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 1:36 am

this video and its assertions?

I think the most important thing is people think for themselves and make up their own minds, but here is my tuppence

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All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

principia discordia

I reckon could be that:

Alex Jones is a fear mongering disinformationist CIA shill ranting inchoherently about a fantasy global elite he calls the "illuminati" and a pretend social agenda that only he calls the "new world order" when neither of these things really exist (there are no plans for a one world bank/currency/army and there are no plans for us in a "post democratic soceity" and the term isnt used. Anywhere.)

or

Alex Jones is the new messiah and the luciferian light of truth unmasking the illuminati and their plans for a new world order -which does exist and is out to "get" us-

for "get" see enslave, euthanise, sterilise, impregnate, imprison, indebt, sodomise and forced breeding with alien species alien

or

Alex Jones is actually Bill Hicks but brainwashed and with plastic surgery, the CIA grabbed him and done it as punishment for spreading too much truth whilst causing mirth; a truly dangerous cocktail, the illuminati hate truth and mirth combined! it enrages them! (Alex Jones is apparently only 34 you know, just 3 years older than me, he looks closer to 44 which would be closer to Bill's actual age were he still alive*)

or Alex Jones makes it all up/ some of it up/ none of it up / "sombunall" of it up and has an agenda which includes grandstanding, self indulgence, making money and shouting at people through a bullhorn.

That there is a conspiracy for control should be of no surprise to anyone not anihilating their capacity for critical thought by smothering it with television, that is the nature of a pyramidal structure of power,there always has been one and their always will be one
It is inevitable. Its the price we pay for not having to think about governance ourselves.
Of course there are conspiracies, that is self evident.

The fact that conspiracies exist doesnt mean we have to go nuts in a no holds barred, shoe horn your favourite bogey man into the bad guy role routine (though I do believe it is a group of shapeshifting reptilian gay alien jews behind everything that is wrong in the world, including the fact I can never find matching socks, damn them and their cunning plots of evil!)

The word conspiracy in its etymological root means simply to "breathe together"--- "com" together, "spirare" breathe. Those who act together, think together and are "inspired" together, it only took on a sinister overtone of skullduggery in the last couple of centuries according to my indepth online research (2 minutes on google)

I personally would be more likely to question the machine like "insitutions" and their objectives rather than tear down individuals. Institutions as social constructs are the real source of power. Individual humans are just little weak bags of meat walking around with a smile. Institutions are immortal god like beasties and as technology advances are making thier way, steadily, to omnipotence.

Having said that I do have a bit of bee in my bonnet about Obama telling everyone he is black and every dumb fucker beleiving him unquestiongly just because "he looks black"(ish). Yes it seems black America was just as dissapointingly quick to judge a book by its cover. Oh well at least we all learnt something from the last 300 years....

Why did they put a "afro american" (irish arabian) man in power? "Change"... he isnt white... he is blaaaack... chaaaaange....change we need... change the channel.... the old white man makes me angry... change him... change we can believe in... they needed someone distinctly not Bush, middle aged white man, which is why a woman was the other option, anything to placate the sheep and stop the robots from rebelling- some would say, this isnt necessarily my opinion. Or is it?

No Im just kidding.

Or am I?

In terms of socially shared realities and social constructions there undeniably is a phenomenoligical event best described as the American War Machine or the industrial military complex, it has its own objectives, its own agenda, its a leviathanically huge beast... and it needs fed.

Quote :
"Every country gets the government it deserves"
Aristotle

To the extent that we act like lazy, gormless, apathetic sheep, which we do very much so here in the UK, we deserve to be treated as such, and we very much are.

all this is Just an opinion, Im not a politics graduate, Im a combatives instructor. Imagine getting combatives advice from a politics graduate... that just wouldnt be sensible.

* I dont really buy this

** but there is an uncanny resemblance and even their voices sound the same... Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 3:10 pm

Quote: "To the extent that we act like lazy, gormless,
apathetic sheep, which we do very much so here in the UK, we deserve to
be treated as such, and we very much are."

..... Well, when the zombies come, at least they'll have something to eat ...... clown
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 4:22 pm

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To the extent that we act like lazy, gormless, apathetic sheep...

I was going to look up gormless but I was too lazy and didn't really care...
Absolutely Bill Hicks incarnate; undecided who is funnier...
Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Obama cult comparison is interesting...
"Al Qaeda an arm of the US Intelligence community", interesting again...
Squirrels are interesting too...
Best are the YouTube comments...
BUT... It's all OK cuz' the hip-hop artists are on it, aight!
Putting my faith and support behind the government, legislators and financiers...
well and the rappers...
They know better than me and apparently there is a plan of some kind that was
being discussed. I'm sure things will work themselves out.
Off to find my tinfoil hat.
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 8:12 pm

Richard Grannon wrote:
To the extent that we act like lazy, gormless, apathetic sheep, which we do very much so here in the UK, we deserve to be treated as such, and we very much are.


Not just there my friend, it is alive and well here too.

As far as the new world order thing... who knows, but there are alot of coincidental happenings.

One thing I do know... is, We The People of the U.S. are screwed if we do nothing to stop what is happening right now. Our way of life is under attack as is our constitution and our liberties. With every passing day, the Gov. gets bigger and we become smaller.

I recently stumbled accross this video and I found it to be encouraging.


I would like to start scanning a UK online news organization to get better informed. Recommendations?



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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyTue Apr 14, 2009 2:06 am

I can say in all honesty, that, that was, How do I put this???

Interesting.
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Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyTue Apr 14, 2009 12:57 pm

...still dancing to the illuminati polka--kinda catchy...i almost get the feeling it
was trying to tell me something...hmmm...naw:
two, three, four...
oh i rule you me, you rule me, it's a vast conspiracy
now i count, up to six, who pooped in my wheatabix?
dum dee dum dum dum doo dum, YEAH! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyTue Apr 14, 2009 1:31 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOWx5G76pkU

Ai ai ai ...... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyTue Apr 14, 2009 4:14 pm

Borat's singing about theological doubt- genius!

wierdly, my Hungarian friend put me on to these dudes a few months ago and I forgot their name, so thanks for the reminder Maija... all my future music questions will be sent via the non local field of intelligence straight into your psychic email Cool
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PostSubject: Re: the obama deception   the obama deception EmptyWed Apr 15, 2009 2:12 pm

Eugene Hutz is indeed a genius - here he is, in Everything is Illuminated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-5OM1GJSY
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