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PostSubject: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 5:27 pm

Are you left- or right-brain dominant?

Here's a little test so you can find out. It is based in scientific fact, if remember correctly. I read an article some time ago surrounding this test. I just can't remember where. But you could always google it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CEr2GfGilw

There are instructions in the info box the the right of the viewing screen.

I'd be really interested to here how you all get on so please post!
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 5:30 pm

I'll go first.

I see it go clockwise. Almost every time. Some people can make it change direction, but I've only managed to do that a couple of times.

Oh, and if you look real close, you can see nipples hee hee hee Laughing And I'm supposed to be a mature father Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 9:02 pm

My bloody F***ing b*stard internet won't load the video fast enough.

But on first impressions, clockwise. I can't see how it would go the other way?!

(Then again no suprise i'm right brained, i'm the most boring, methodical, risk assessing person I know. I read the instructions to everything. We bought a £10 food steamer and I read the little manual from front to cover, lmao)

Edit: Yep, nipples ... Wink ... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 9:37 pm

clockwise... I am one of the freaks that can see it both directions pretty much at will, just takes me a second or 2.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 10:00 pm

NO SHIT!!!

I thought this was a trick, but I just managed it! Both ways!
(sorry for chatting, at least you can see how excited this puppy just got though Smile)
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 11:12 pm

roadkill wrote:
clockwise... I am one of the freaks that can see it both directions pretty much at will, just takes me a second or 2.

No wonder you did so well in the Where's Shaf Challenge Smile
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 12:12 am

clockwise--nothing but...i'd have to smash the screen and twirl it around and throw it out the window to get it
going the other way.

i can't even imagine how it's possible any other way. what i don't get--and believe me i'm really glad Roadkill
just said he could change it at will or i'd doubt that it could even be seen the other way, is how they say most
see it counter clockwise. hmmm? puzzling?

i'm all symbols and impulse and big picture--no surprise for me either.

what stumps me is that i score high on IQ tests, i don't put stock into them, but now i'm starting to suspect it's just
what i have in common with the folks that like to make them and little else. i scored low on SATs; have terrible dyslexia;
am shite at math--after a point [good at that forest gump level quick math stuff like figuring out stuff in my head such
as what tip to leave, etc], and read about as slow as my pitbull. so i have to ask, what the fuk is an IQ test and why is
it practically the only test i score on, when every one else is better at pretty much EVERYTHING academic. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 12:45 am

Russ,

every time you write stuff about your self, I realize we have more and more in common. I'm the same as you've just described, except I suck at math in all forms Smile Not sure about the IQ test though, I think when I took one it was just plain ol average joe.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 6:58 am

Clockwise but can make it change direction if i concentrate.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 11:16 am

Don't want to discuss this here, but just to set some minds at rest!


Might be worth reminding that IQ is trying to measure something that isn't really measurable.

IQ doesn't relate to social mobility or mental strength, really it's the personality that matters.

You can't plot personalities on a chart though, can you?
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 12:18 pm

Keep telling yourself that Mike, It will help you get through those long self doubting nights. Very Happy

Someone told me that IQ is inversely related to masturbatory habits. Can you let us know? (Just wash your hands before you start typing.) Laughing

Anyway, started off clockwise, was able to get both after a min or two. Dont think it has sod all to do with intelligence, more to do with some slight control of over the processing filter in the visual cortex.

One of the things I find most wonderfully intriguing about the world is that what I see isn't real. Mindf**** me everytime I start to think about it.

Anyone watch the BBC3 quiz with Andy Hamilton & Reginald D Hunter? This was one of the topics, i.e. perception is translation, not reality. Nice part where the psychologist speaking describes babies difficulties with play, very early is because the image we see in our head is inverted, we have to learn to turn it right way up. So motor skills in the first few months are at odds with our perception of the world.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 1:36 pm

Okay, like most eveyone so far I see it initially going clockwise, but eventually if I use the Captain Kirk method from the Kobayashi Maru test I can make it go whichever way I want......for Russ it's a much less violent method than breaking things.

All you need to do is focus the power of your mind into the hand holding the mouse, concentrate on putting the pointer on the controller for the video, hold down the left click button, and then by totally focusing my mind power I drag the controller backwards causing her to spin counterclockwise....where there is a will there is a way. geek


Keep safe and train hard/smart (and sometimes sneaky), Mark H
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 1:49 pm

Clockwise but I can turn it by focusing.

But the focus is sticky. Even with the lines in the end of the video it took conscious attention and a few seconds to turn it.

Blackops, the perception and reality stuff is FREAKY. i read a book called "making up the mind" by Chris Frith about exactly that. Nothing we experience is direct. Even the input from our body is only delivered to conscious attention after simplifying it to a tiny model.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm

havent seen that BBC3 documentary Blackops, but I do have some funny stories about Reggie Hunter on the door of the voodoo lounge comedy club in Liverpool from about 7 years ago, want to hear them? no? Im not boring... Im not ... wait let me tell you abot this one time I was in a fight and... Sleep Sleep Sleep

suit yourself... (I will say he's a very nice and funny chap and would have made a fine doorman Rolling Eyes if it wasnt for that silly stand up comedy job he insisted on pursuing, pah, look at him, on the telly, what a waste of time that was... Razz )

back to the plot


look, Im in charge and I can tell you conclusively

the flocking dancer is moving flocking clockwise,

there you go. I fixed it.

Problem solved.

Next.


if you say different I will torture you 1984 style till you see it going "the correct way" (my way)

BUT

I will admit

if I gouge my left eye back up and in towards my brain and squint hard for the fraction of a second before I pass out from the pain and frontal lobe pressure the dancer twitches and the screen flashes and she does a tiny jig the other way, but thats it... she's going clockwise you fools

which means according to the "more info" bit of the vide0 I am into

symbols and images

philospohy and religion

fantasy based


fantasy based!! I knew it! you can stick your reality based self defense up your bum, im fantasy based all the way, fetch me my broadsword Im off to heavy bag drill some ork slaying moves bounce
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 2:19 pm

The best support of the clockwise movement (apart fromt he video) Richie is claiming is..

That the SHADOW is moving clockwise!

The interesting thing is that we can warp our perception if we try to.

Acceptance and effort to follow an agenda can alter how we create our mental model.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 2:22 pm

joking aside

at 3.00 onwards they show the girl "going anti clockswise" and when they say she is, I see that she is...

so is the image of the girl actually/objectively moving in a direction or is it all suibjective

if its not subjective, whats the test testing?

if it is purely subjective, how are they controlling my perception from 3.00 onwards?

my brain hurts...

could be the excessive gouging though
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 2:46 pm

I realized i just posted in the wrong topic. Never mind.

No idea either, probably eye strain from all the titty bars. Sharif only found the vid because he is suffering from early parent lack of sex & if he gets caught he can explain it away as an experiment.

That pic was really nice, Ritch, what model was it? I couldnt see, the girl got in the way.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 2:51 pm

Isn't that the Kitty Lea chick from the SFS clips earlier?
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 3:12 pm

RichardB wrote:
Isn't that the Kitty Lea chick from the SFS clips earlier?


yeah thats Kitty

who wants to be a female boxer now... bashing face and brains in... No, bad Kitty!
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 3:38 pm

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Keep telling yourself that Mike, It will help you get through those long self doubting nights. Very Happy

Someone told me that IQ is inversely related to masturbatory habits. Can you let us know? (Just wash your hands before you start typing.) Laughing

Anyway, started off clockwise, was able to get both after a min or two. Dont think it has sod all to do with intelligence, more to do with some slight control of over the processing filter in the visual cortex.

lol!

Fyi, I started off clockwise, and was right hand dominant, then after a minute or two I also found that I could do it with my left hand too, going anticlockwise.

It therefore must have sod all to do with intellegence. It's more about the stamina of your arm muscles.

Edit:

Richard it's spelt 'orc'. Originally a term used by Anglo-Saxons to describe foreigners [Frenchies]. With your lack of factual fantasy knowledge you will never reach the worldly prize at the end of your conquest - The Coppery Ring Of Elron!
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 3:50 pm

Ive been exposed as a walting middle earth fraud- AGAIN! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 3:57 pm

Talk to Blackops, he lives in devon and brews his own ale.

(He lives in a tellytubby house like in Lord of The Rings)
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 4:02 pm

Mike2010 wrote:
Talk to Blackops, he lives in devon and brews his own ale.

(He lives in a tellytubby house like in Lord of The Rings)


hahahhaha!


then he has access to cider too... now thats a drink of warrior kings king
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 4:04 pm

No that was Horlicks.

Sleep Well - Eat Well..

Sorry i'll shut up now, bit far Off Topic.
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PostSubject: Re: A group experiment   A group experiment EmptyTue Nov 10, 2009 4:24 pm

This thread is full of lol!

Mike- Tellytubby house, horlicks, lol! lol! lol!

Also lol! to blackops about the early parent lack of sex. BTW - do you really brew your own ale? From a Londoner's perspective, that's mad! In a cool kind of way.

But seriously now, gentlemen. I must admit to having a seeeecret agendaaaa (said in super villain voice). You'll remember my threat about why this little forum here attracts us here (with all our kooky interests outside of SP) in which we all group hugged...

Well, I suspected that we were mostly right-brained mofos. And it would seem that that is true. So yeah, that's it. I was right all along hahaha. Check out my ego, isn't it lovely?
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