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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 07, 2009 6:05 pm

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Sharif, your condescension astounds, I'm done.

Please explain, mate. I can honestly say that it's not my intention to offend anybody, but if you feel I've stepped out of line, please tell me where. And I'm not being sarcastic when I say that.
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 07, 2009 7:32 pm

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Don't worry, Sharif, Nix is just suffering a bit of egoic Normalitis. It is not our job to cure him though it would be good to have a helpful human around rather than just another "lifestyle chooser". Your "condescention" has offended his ego. Didn't you know people rarely like being told they are wrong? So let him train. When a EuroRiotCop points his taser at innocent ladies in some chaotic street looting or mass protest (HelterSkelter Babylonian Madness) I am sure Nix will have some kung fu fabulous solution ready to save the day. Like in the movies. In the nick of time Nix will nix Old Nick with Ninja knives and being well hard.

Or maybe not. Indeed I don't think the Elite are much worried about gun toting "survivalists" or "Rebel freedom fighters" as last time I checked APC's were still bullet-proof. Soldiers will be: Foreign race; Elitist Sadists; Trained Cyborgs. If they aren't actually chipped they will be drugged and remotely MK'd (controlled with infra/ultra/audible sonics and Radio waves, in microwave and ELF bands). So we are gonna have big trouble winning a ground war... best bet is to stop martial law happening. Preemptive strikes! Box clever...

The Nix's opinion is sadly disregarded in quality control. He doesn't seem to think the question of Government Repression and Genocide is very important and so has not cultivated an educated or intuitive view that's worth a damn.

Intuition. Yes, highly programmed against for millenia. Making a come back though we may have to rely on logical foolery for a while. Logic was handed to the West by Parmenides who said he got it from a Goddess who said it was to prove Unity. All is One.
So all the Tech we make using Logic is blasphemy.

I ASK YOU: WHAT IS IT THAT KNOWS SOMETHING IS TRUE? WHY GO THROUGH STEPS OF "LOGIC" BASED ON SENSE DATA, RELYING ON INTUITION THROUGHOUT TO TELL US YES/NO, INSTEAD OF SIMPLY USING INTUITION ALONE, TO START WITH, PURE AND UNTOUCHED BY THOUGHTS? sunny

BTW I would not worry about the Plagues. Be healthy and stock up on bug killers, antioxidants, seeds, survival information...
a virus will go through surgical gloves like a flea thru a string vest. Best to kill the bugger on contact. So be ALIVE and practise Chi Kung. I recommend the simplest Spring Forest Chi Kung. Acidophilus. Garlic. Vit C and E (mixed with tocotrienols). Zinc. Selenium. Fresh air and limited chemical and EMF pollution, You know?

The problem with Nix is the same with most people, INCLUDING MYSELF, which is that the present way of life in the West is just too comfy and narcotic and DOMESTICATED. The shit that happened in the past is a distant shadow to younger folk nowadays. The TV is bad but even without Media massage our brains are encouraged to be spongebob squarepants crap.

Simply put, most people are highly directed by their environment. If there are no immediate severe threats (tigers, gunmen, runaway cars etc) folk tend to switch off as if they won't die any minute and there are no dangers to be aware of.
So the Fabian Fathers have an easy go at hypnotising the profane (that's you).

Remember, KILL YOUR TV and
Hollywood and almost all Mass Media, especially TV, is designed to PROGRAM YOU into Predictability. Don't be too predictable. A murder mystery is not primarily there for your entertainment. It is just another Masonic mindfuk conditioning the viewers to be malleable cattle. It's quite complex in execution but artfully simple in design.

The best you can do is to relax and develop your sense of intuition. Patricia Einstein has a good book on it.
Laters.


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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 07, 2009 8:30 pm

O.H, again I agree with your world-views... on consciousness, natural immune supporters, killing the TV etc.

But I would not agree that the folk of this forum are fools. There was only one 'fool' here and he's left the forum now. These guys are very intelligent people. There may be those who live deeply within the mainstream/matrix/whatever. But most people do in this day and age, unfortunately (as you know of course).

You obviously have a lot of great stuff to share, and I'd like to hear more of what you have to say. But getting personal with folk wont get you very far on this forum, mate.

Again, I know EXACTLY what point it is you are trying to make and exactly why it is that you get worked up about it... but there are certain ways of communicating that just cause people to stop listening. Know what I mean?

Anyway, did you watch the video in the original post by any chance? What did you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 08, 2009 1:19 am

Official Hypocrite, I am by no means resulting to Ad Hominem to debate your arguments, but I have the sense that all is not right here, and that you have an agenda. You talk of intuition, I am simply stating mine.

No offense meant. You raise a lot of interesting points, some of which I agree with.

And we can both agree that it's possible I agree with all of them (or none of them) but it makes little difference to either of us, either way.


Sharif, thanks for redeeming yourself and standing up.. For a minute then I thought that you were going to go under, and possibly tuck under OH's wing. Nothing here is physical, or of impact on out 'real' lives.

None of us here has any power over the others. Or do they?


We are simply statements written on a PC monitor. You've presented your views for the good of any reader, not any particular readers. You can take the horse to water, but you can't make it drink.. etc.

Based on that though we all have our own framework of reality by which we interpret others' statements. We can't have any alliances or similarities based on loyalty or emotions - I'll defend a point if I agree with it, in case I can explain it well enough that suddenly a reader will see it in a different light.
But i'm not hoping to change their reality, they'll do that themselves. And more often than not, my reality is changed. I suppose that's progress, but not in a certain direction as we don't share a common map.


I'm very confused though. I feel that there is a fair bit of manipulation and trickery going on here, but whether that is my preception of reality changing (in terms of being resistant to new claims of the World Order), or a genuinely bizzarre manipulation thing, we'll never know.

It's odd, that's for sure. OH, when I read your posts I feel like i'm hang-gliding over hell.




And if the world is going to descend into chaos, I'm going to stock up on porn.
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Erm anyway, just had a shower and was thinking about stuff, and then it dawned on me that we are the world. Or, I am the world. Everything that I peceive around me, well it isn't me. I am all that is, that was, and ever will be.

Jeez, must be sleep deprevation. I'm gonna piss myself when i see this tomorrow.
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Ha! Laughing

As I posted this i saw this beautiful creature called Mike2010 posted...
I do hope he dumps the porn and pulses around that Universal Consciousness.
Yes, you are hang-gliding over Hell. Enjoy the ride!
I don't even give you half the bad news.
The good news is YOU ARE GOD. Eat a lot of psilocybin mushrooms and you will see NO LIMITS.
You will need a lot of work to stabilise such a vision. I hear the bliss is worth it!

I knew you and others would bite! As if I say I am no fool...
Ha! ha! Inferiority ego complexes abound! I am itching for a fight!
I AM NOT HERE TO PANDER TO EGOS, NOR AM I HERE TO WAKE PEOPLE TO SOME CRISIS. That was an act.
I AM JUST A FOOL PRETENDING I AM NOT UNITY CONSCIOUSNESS. Fooled "you", whoever that is.

Sharif, mate, to be honest, I am past caring much. My kidneys and heart and stomach etc are all weak... I have stared into the Abyss and thought so long and hard over what would be a truly winning strategy that I am quite twisted, blasted, burnt out and misfiring. So, yes, I should practise the 5 Healing Sounds. I am not called Official Hypocrite for nowt. I have little faith that readers will really take any positive effects from my even best chosen words, most balanced divinely inspired non-egoic "wisdom". If they wanted to know they would already know. Oh, I lie. You prove me wrong. Oh, Sharif, I am torn and troubled beyond words. I do understand why and why not... yet intellectual knowing and emotional realization are junior and senior brothers. I would rather be emotionally healthy and wrong than hanging on this fucking tree with this dumb ego of mine. I have a a cunning plan to crush it and wipe it out... heh heh! Don't tell it anything, it is gonna get ambushed!
Modern people typically would rather suffer horribly, not just in the future but even dooming themselves to continued pain and a slow death from cancer for example, rather than accept the pain of dissolving the structure and attachments of "their ego" and "its" subjective world. It's like 1984. Ignorance is Strength.

So you are no fool, eh? Yet you only woke to much of the Masonic Plan ONe year ago, was it? with the Net being flooded with exposure of the lies and even a little leaking onto TV? So buying the WTC 911 farce didn't cause sleeplless nights and strange feelings? If you believed the Govt jokes then why are you no fool now?
Get this: I am not trying to score points. This is not a competition. The Truth hurts... and I am not overly sadistic
and I am human, imperfect, tigerish by nature. So sometimes I forget strategy and rage against the Machine. Forgive me.

How about we get over ourselves, eh? If someone calls me an idiot I do not get angry or dismiss him. I don't take it personally. Yet if they tell lies "I" get angry. That is righteous anger. Divine wrath. I am personally actually threatened by denials of the "real" dangers to my body. Of course this whole world is Maya but the body still believes in stuff. If these foolish ways we civilised men have do not change soon we will not survive in numbers above a few billion. It is a little aggro to spare a lot of suffering. Life is not a fetish orgy where you can buy chosen pecadillos ad infinitum. Lunch ain't free.
But that's moot as the Fat Controllers have imminent plans and I believe 2015 is a red letter year for them, seemingly from the UN.

Intelligence? What type? Like that impractical geek Oxford Fellow I saw last night? Who can even say what was an intelligent move until the end of time and all plays have been made? It's all relative. There is only ONE ABSOLUTE.
What it is is big fucking "I'm Intelligent, me" EGOmaniacs, really nice guys and charming no doubt most of the time, in the pub, in the dojo, in the street, being fundamentally and effectively very little or no different than the average sheeple. Anyone who feels they actually are really internally AND externally making great progress in freeing their being AND their local and global environment probably has the wisdom to not react in anyway to my sweeping insults. To win we need SAS, Surprise Aggression Speed.
So stealthy covers and ops are a must. As is unpredictability and controlling the Enemy's mind.
So If you have a grand plan FFS don't tell anyone within the reach of a telecom line, They are listening.
I can do little as I have been watched since 1992. Of course I may be lying.
Taking everything at face value is stupid. This cat is no respecter of Face. So I can be stupidly rude... deal with it, not like a girl by running away but by maturely gaining the best of the situation. What makes me laugh grimly is the ease with which most dismiss even my moderate unconventionalities. It is us weirdos in the corner you should listen to, not the liar with the good teeth, nice suit and overblown confidence. He has a Masonic Tie. I AM FREEDOM, when I remember.

THROWING THE BABY (FOOL WISDOM) OUT WITH THE BATHWATER (MY CRITICISMS N INSULTS)
IS REALLY REALLY STUPID.
Really wised up beings would not let themselves get moved to upset by personal criticisms, would not allow "insults" to distract their analytical process from fairly evaluating the data and readily would admit to being a class-A FOOL.
I can tell yoU don't study the Tarot. Fool = O. We are all fools. Never made a mistake twice? How do you know you will never again?

It is part of the conceit of Western Man that is implanted top-down throughout the power heirachies that we are all intelligent and have free equal access to information and so we all know "Reality", all have a good idea of "What's really happening". I hear it all the time from 25, 35, 45, 65 year old know-it-alls. An obviously absurd lie. Now as children of the Godhead that we are being Wisdom itself would be true but most people have had their trust in and access to intuition crushed by school, religion, Fluoride, TV etc and meanwhile Logic has been magnified while scrupulously being avoided at most VolkSchule as "too good" for plebs... then really arrogant plonkers like my Dad think they know it all just because the Elite let him go to Cambridge for free where the Elite go. It is a pyramid of power with the piss (with amanita) n shit (with mercury) flowing downhill, each class conning the one below that "We are all Equal and Friendly" even as the Abuse is blatant.
The poiliticos are no more than figurehead gangsters with good suits and fake words and smiles.
To allow them to run the world is insanely stupid foolishness. I wouldn't give a shit but I have an attachment to Humanity and Earth so it would kinda suck if the Borg killed most things... I pray we wake and our psi power defeats their tech.
I have been blessed/cursed with an inquiring mind and sense of justice that could not find the drive to knuckle down to brainwashing myself and selling out, hence I never got a (Masonic) degree, a (Masonic) Mortarboard on my head.
Sadly I dawdled too long so never managed to ethically get rich... but enough of me.

Hey, S, if the men here are so smart what say you that we just shut up and limit ourselves to the odd amused outburst like dear Richie G? I'm sure the brains and brawn here can realise the exact degree to which they have been brainwashed fools
in the flash of a kidney punch and then storm off to secretly awaken the world with Ninjaesque cunning.
That was sarcasm. Low humour but I made my point. What's the point in self-defence if one won't even acknowledge, never mind tackle the biggest threats? I know, i know... I goitta build bridges and make peace, kidgloving the egos of "sceptics".
Not sure I have the patience.

It's like, if the ship is sinking exactly as I warned I can least mock the pricks by shouting "I told you so!".
It is a dubious pleasure but I'm grasping at straws. Honey can't take the bitterness out of my mouth.
I have spent my whole adult life trying to help people and 99% of the time all I got back was shit and scorn for being a crazy waster, while most people waste the whole ecosphere. Even the Greenie reaction to that is subverted to the Game, as is plain from Pnice Phillip's Projects.
There is no profit in prophecy. Most of the great success stories out there are just tools for the mechanism.

Ah, shit, there I went being all negative again... Rolling Eyes
Sorry... you should try it when you have my perspective...

I have some good plans but sadly I can't elude to them as they have to stay secret until D-DAY. SAS.
It is what it is.

Not a red pill. Not not a red pill. Not any kind of pill. And yet, it is.
And yes, tinfoil can help, just plaster your walls with it and don't tell anyone elephant

Laughing tongue
Yeah, Mike2010, anything you perceive leaves a mark on consciousness. Why do you think Yogis abandon everything?
If we have no effect on each other via this medium then what is the point?
BTW Tantrics are likely to be the drugged up freaks in the corner. Dancing with the Devil!

MU Laughing
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With regards to the ego, sometimes it makes sense to simply not be capable of being right or wrong.

That's why an opinion is probaly best to be offered and explained, instead of a 'fact' being offered.

Please logically tell us why the UN has earmarked 2015 for a big change, and what you believe will happen. If you back it up with sound logic, based upon verifiable information, and clearly presented to the audience here - then who could disagree with you?
(Please don't answer that question, i'm more interested in 2015. Your opinions genuinely intrigue me, i'm not being sarcastic.)
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Edit: Bugger bit late with this one Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 08, 2009 9:22 pm

Blackops,

lol!

But you know, we ARE the world. But don't even get me started on that one, that's a new thread entirely. Very Happy

Mike,

Thanks for your post, there were some nice points made. Good to see you back on the forum again too. When you say that there is some trickery going on, do you mean with 'them', as in conspiracy-wise or are do you mean like with THIS thread? Hope you don't think I'm hypnotizing you with subliminal worship me messages hidden within my sharif is god posts Wink

Re: your other post. Blackops' post hit it on the head (even if he is a grade A piss-taker Smile) We are indeed the world. And that's one I'll lay down confidently as fact and not just an opinion Smile

Oh, did you watch the video in the original post, by the way? Any opinions?

O.H,

Man.... what a post. I too felt like a was handgliding over hell, but possibly while ascending towards something better. There was so much in that post, I'm not even going to attempt to address each point. But I will say that you are one interesting MOFO. You're posts actually have a flow to them which reminds me very much of the days when I partook in the use of particular substances. And based on comments you've made, I'd say you have experience in that area too. But maybe not. Either way, it doesn't matter.

With regards to what kind of intelligence I feel there is in this forum? Well, to be honest I'd say I get the impression that there is a pretty good mix of both left and right-hemisphere brain activity here. It's why I come here. I would describe most as free-thinkers. You may argue that there are varying levels of freeness, but either way, the folk here are free-er thinkings than most people i know in the 'real' world. The reason I started this threat is because I believe there is enough right-hemisphere-type thinking here to see the bigger picture.

You know, the scary thing is, I believe I HAVE been where you are now mentally. But it was not a good time in my life. I have also been deeply 'asleep' and hypnotized to the extent that at one point in my life I was in the army recruiment office asking how I could sign up to kill those guys that flew planes into my favourite NY landmark. And that was also a bad time in my life.

Now, I'm constantly trying to walk the middle-way. I do fall regularly (usually to the left these days Smile). But balance I try.

Anyway, I REALLY do like reading your posts even if they do rape my mind a little bit Very Happy so please keep them coming. I know other people like reading your stuff too, as nobody has challenged any of your posts. How about you post an intro in the general forum. I think that's the protocol anyway. It would be nice to get some background on you.
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O.H, this is for you mate. Party as a mild friendly piss-take, but also as something I reckon you will genuinely appreciate (and may have even seen before)

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Oh Blackops, if that song spang [edit: sprang Wink] to mind then the joke's on you! Very Happy

Hello Sharif, glad to be back! 'fraid I haven't watched the vid, I might have a look tomorrow, no sound at the moment. We had a thread very similar to this a while back though, i'll try and dig out my post as to my views our current world order.

By 'power', I meant that OH is very charismatic, as are a fair few of us! Like it's been said, all communication is hypnotic.. cyclops
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Though I am enjoying this thread (where's that popcorn emoticon, Roadkill?), I would like to interject a couple thoughts.
Having had friends with mental illness, including schizophrenia, I would say that it is not a future I would wish upon anyone. For one of the best books about the experience, check out:
http://books.google.com/books?id=PYc211F8oxIC&dq=%23+Pamela+Spiro+Wagner+and+Carolyn+S.+Spiro,+M.D.,+Divided+Minds:+Twin+Sisters+and+Their+Journey+Through+Schizophrenia+%28St.+Martin%27s+Press%29&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=gEX3Soy3FYvysgPoieC0CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%23%20Pamela%20Spiro%20Wagner%20and%20Carolyn%20S.%20Spiro%2C%20M.D.%2C%20Divided%20Minds%3A%20Twin%20Sisters%20and%20Their%20Journey%20Through%20Schizophrenia%20%28St.%20Martin%27s%20Press%29&f=false

If one's 'insights' only succeed in creating more fear, the path is not worth taking IMO, at least for those of us that have a choice.
A teacher of mine once said that there is only really one question: "Am I moving TOWARDS life, or AWAY from life"?
In other words, am I engaging in life MORE, because of this path, or is it moving me to engage less. Is it healthy, or not healthy?

Though I agree that Shamen are not part of today's society for better of for worse, I would point out, that even in traditional tribal societies, the Shaman was separate, shunned even, living on the edge of the community. Not an easy or happy life


Sharif: I believe OH already has an intro under 'Official'
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Hi Chaps.

I am glad yet sad you are asking me about 2015.
Why sad? Because surely the important part of the question, "Is the UN PLANNING TO KILL OFF LOTS OF PEOPLE BY 2015?"
is the first part, the timing of 2015 being very secondary, yes? And that this question of Global Government Genocide (GGG! 777!) has been answered already, many times by authors freely accessible online. How about we google "UN depopulation plan"? study

So if i can assume that you see the UN really are a bunch of Satanic Commie Bastards intending "THe Big One", as I like to call the Armageddon Apocalypse", then I am sure you will hunt down plenty of good info to determine whether or not 2015 is significant.
I am not being lazy or saying you are, just pointing a way, praising fishing over begging for fish. Not being a c@nt I will give links if there is a good reason but you might well find evidence as fast or even quicker than I, what with google being such a nippy bird (eagle).
I think once you did do enough good homework well then the timing of the UN's biggest push for kill-off is certainly secondary at best to the timing of general Martial Law in the major nations and then worldwide. Once they have locked down the world and neutralised outsiders like me and unwanted insiders who might help humanity then our options are severely curtailed and our opinions on UN policy for the world in 2015 or any other year become almost moot. We have to act now before a Police State manifests and I won't be able to give you any really good Hypocritical advice.

Sharif, thanks for the clip, I will watch it (more fun than the 2hr money dirge you'd like me to watch! I dunno, maybe I will find time)
and then respond to you... one at a time, lads! What kind of girl do you think I am? queen elephant
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I will pass by the schizo reference... I leave talk in that vein to the Stalinist Psychiatrists and fearful naysayers.
Of course paranoid madness is a problem, yet sleepwalking, sleeptaxpaying, sleepTVwatching and other normal activites are much worse owing to them being insidious and pervasive.

your points otherwise are excellent.

Yes, the shamen are feared, as the unknown, as the powerful, as the different.

Yeah, I said hi but fucked up the name too short.

I totally agree that fear and death are the evil we must avoid.
Yet sometimes fear is healthy.
e.g.if you are pissed and sleepy on your way home from the nightclub and some guy with a bottle decides to hurt you a dose of fear AKA adrenaline is just the ticket to wake you into useful action. Indeed Nature in Her Wisdom will assuredly provide it in spades!
A better analogy would be one of my favourites: THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE! Scared? Well it will certainly require action and it seems evident that most folk will feel much fear when they wake to the flames up their arse... but what are you gonna do? Let them sleepwalk around like crazed zombies? It would be good if we had a bigger army to save our skins from the Machine. I don't fancy a Zombie Apocalypse. My machete has not been ordered yet and I'm skint for a fortnight.
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HAHA! Yes, fear causing you to engage with life and save your arse from a flaming bulding = good. Very Happy
Comatose infront of TV with duct tape around the windows to keep the bad things outside = non engagement with life = bad.
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Glad you liked it, Maija. Yeah, it's a fave of mine. The House Is On Fire! Wake up!
yet still some men sleep...

Sharif, your words are most kind. You are making this cat blush!
I watched the McKenna (of Gaelic Kingly blood, I wager) clip and liked it. Comments will come soon, I need to think about drugs alot first.TBH I don't really have much probem with most of the T.Brothers' spiel but I don't trust em anyway! Just cos they push the coolest plant wisdom this side of the Amazon doesn't mean I am a fan of these gurus. There are more pro BS artists working for the Man than we dare imagine. Trust no one! Keep your laser handy!

How's that for a Paranoia RPG quote?.

Well, as you can tell, I have not reserved myself in my webposts as I used to. I can't be fucked with niceties and biting my tongue much anymore as I find purely Internet friendships rarely yield effective collaboration or action, as I am looking for real world activism/awakening. Not that I don't want to share, relate and help people online, it's just that I am getting antsy at the lack of realisation at an emotional and soul and willpower level that action is indicated as necessary to avert a fate for humanity that does not bear thinking about. I mean it! If we dreamt and played a good way of life and lived it free of the enslavement of fear the System would crumble. It's fear, conditioned responses and inertia that makes me think I so often piss in the wind. So spiting my boarding school MC manners I just let rip at about 40% power, thus the readers are getting more OH wisdom for their reading efforts. No extra charge,

40%... you ain't seen nuttin yet! If I haven't confirmed myself as "the nutter" yet I will soon... but I accept your challenge, Sharif, to test the openmindedness of the folk here. They seem so polite and interesting.

My latest wheeze is to engender an online debate between two energyworkers, one a weird truth exploration blogger genius from whom I get many of my most fecund inspirations and science facts, the other is a respected young Silat and Yoga teacher (clue!). Watch this space!
The working title? "The Habit of Whole Body Internal Orgasms by Energy Field Transduction with the lay Public: Healing or Abuse?". The public part was of the title was tricky. I mean he has multiple orgasms with women in McDonald's and some people think it's not fake but wrong and stupid..

Interested?!

I bet.. Wink

HA!HA! HA!HA!HA! Laughing
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! lol!

Ah... you know what they say? Sex sells.

Kerching! I should sell DVD's like a real conspiracy guru! farao

BTW BlackOps, have you ever considered the symbolism of your avatar, Mr.T?
I was going to write an article on the A-Team on a thread where I was well received but I got too controversial and confrontational for sanity so I gave it a bunk instead of taking any more risks. It involves elephants... elephant
B.A.Barracas [sp?] is The Man, your Daddy, with the Gold and the Military Muscle and Firepower... kind of dumb but he's got Hannibal for brains so...
It is an Illuminati self-reference, the A-Team are the Olympians, the Mofos in the Capstone, Babylon.

As for 2015... well all there really is is their call to stop growth then, "Cairo Conference reaches consensus on plan to stabilize world growth by 2015", but the fact to bear in mind is that they always legalise and advertise their big shit well in advance. All the wars and abuses on populations have all been legalised and been quite predictable. Just look at the UN backing of US aggression. The backlash against US Imperial and other Intl.criminality, the breaking of Intl.Law, is itself assimilated into the Global NWO as the US will be wasted and brought low, by the design of it's own Elite. It's not an American eagle, it's a Phoenix.

The fact is that the UNPopFund is a tool of Big Pharma in it's Malthusian mission, along with Big Oil, Big Agro, Big Business, Big f@cking Brother TO KILL US. We are, they say, resource-wasting unnecessary "Useless eaters" to the Elite who jawdroppingly really do plan to chop us down to their engraved Guidestones'' ( and many other VIP's' ) target ideal of 500 million total slaves, remember? It's been all over the alternative news. Couldn't have missed it. Haha!
Here is a link http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6008869/Rick-Martin---Depopulation-of-a-Planet---Thinning-Out-the-Useless-Eaters---An-Unspoken-NWO-Agenda. Not read it myself but then I woudn't be the Official Hypocrite if I did.

RICHARD G! Are you doing your TaiChi? I would love to be where you are, training in the water. cheers

Ever hear of the Codex Alimentarius? I know Richie will have. Go google. Read and weep, boys.

People tell me they can't force these fascist laws on us but they blatantly do and the extreme severity of the Codex simply begs the question, "How do they think they can push it through?". A good question. Logically we know that even if they could get some evil police to try to arrest people growing their own food and selling vitamins surely the masses would rise up against the Govt and Authority if things were as they are now?

Well if we foolishly ignore the fact that the Medical Mafia and FDA SWAT teams do already smash up the too rudely effective cancer treatments that pop up from time to time (a skin cancer cure comes to mind) we are still left with the fact that these genocidal and ecocidal food "laws" are due to become implementable on the New Year. Now the stars are shite for xmas and I don't want to be a doomsayer but the fuckers wouldn't put this on the books if they didn't intend to use it. So perhaps we'll see a slow rampup of the laws... but it still stinks a bit. How could this go past the public outrage? I think the awful but likely answer is that they intend a lot of nasty distractions like an economic crash next year and the beginning of the final stage of collapse of the dollar and then with hyperinflation will come US MartialLaw and then wider lockdown, at which point this Codex is just another convenient Law to lock people up for.

Sleep tight! I won't, but then I have got a broken collarbone. Chin up. It may never happen.

In fact if we totally stop believing in this flow of matter then things need not get so sick but that depends on the overwhelming majority who, since they have their heads up their arses, completely believe in any old shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 10:04 am

Hello OH. There is certainly a logic to your suggestions, so obviously they are cause for concern. Duly noted.

I do question though the mentality of the authors of most of the articles that come to light when researching the topics you've just mentioned.
Now there's no way in hell I can prove you or they wrong, or that you or they are right. But these authors almost always claim 'proof' of their opinions and predictions, and then fail to deliver it.


I'd love to debate the nitty gritty theories here (and I actually find conspiracy stuff very interesting) but first we all have to question the legitimacy of the methods used to research and publish the theories.

Personally I don't think that the scientific (sociological?) merit of most of the flotsam online is worth more than 5 minutes reading. The internet, as we know, is a hotspot for troubled minds and those who have no other soapbox (I come to mind.. Wink).
The authors of most of this work claim that the 'best lies are those based on truth', insofar as to say that a scare like Swine Flu is pre-emptive social conditioning for a much larger threat that is in fact deliberately fabricated (for example the proposed mandatory immunisations - containing a worse virus).

Ironically though this works against the same authors. Their work is usually based on logical conclusions - Most of it makes 'sense' if you read it with an open mind and ignore potential contradictions.

But this 'truth' (the authenticity of their original, logical conclusions) is then always tainted by their illogical conclusions. The ones that conditioning from other similar sources has given them.
As such we see a spiral whereby a small grain of potentially useful truth is found, and then it is expanded into a fabricated presumption. This in turn conditions others into sensationalising the 'truth' that they find.
Unfortunately it also turns potential believers into simply turning the other way. No scientist who has spent his career writing research papers could look at the documents online and find irrefutable evidence that the theory is correct.

It is unfortunate, and possibly you've already relised that, hence the username.
We will always be hypocrites, but by basing assumptions on concrete facts and logic, and developing systems of verifying the assumptions, perhaps we can actually learn something?

At the moment the networks of conspiracies appear not to offer the vetting that is needed to prove a theory. So logically it's hypocritical for the theorists to criticise non-'believers' for having apparently untrue assumptions about the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 2:54 pm

Mike, you've just hit upon many of the reasons I can only refer to it as "the cesspool."

Going down there lookng for information is a lot like dumpster-diving. You're in a DUMPSTER. Most of what you'll find is worthless garbage. But SOME of it is VERY valuable. But fuck, it leaves a stink on you. And whatever you find is stinky. When you show it to people too soon, they are repulsed by the stink. Forget the dumpster, think "cesspool" for this one. Raw sewage.

Personally I chuck away everything about secret societies, religion, magic, symbology and so on. Maybe there is gold there, but FUNCTIONALLY it's all red herrings to me. I am only interested in THE MECHANICS OF POWER.

For the REASONS of conspiracy I go back to nature again. What I was saying before is simple.

Nature is the real matrix. Nature HAS all of us. Also the conspiring members of our species. And their conspiring is just yet another program.

Under harsh conditions, stealing that extra amount of food may keep you from starving. Keeping back when the other guys take down a mammoth may save you from being killed. Not to mention the great benefits of enslaving someone and forcing them to do ALL the work and take ALL the risks for you. This kind of thing has become a part of our DNA long before there was such a thing as humans. The "good" and "evil" back there, was from OUR instinctive reaction to it. Actually they are loyalty or corruption against the group. And as if that wasn't bad enough, when we form tribes, we also seem to have an instinct for attacking other tribes. The rich and poor tribes can barely make mention of each other without sneering in contempt.

You don't need to attend a course to learn to take advantage of others. You see it in schools. Stronger kids dominating weaker kids out of money or whatever, maybe forcing them to do some tedious task they don't want to do themselves. You see apes do it too. Even to the point of performing things that begin bordering on outright scams. At work, shipping stuff to BUSINESSES, not individuals, if a shipment is accidentally dropped off at the wrong customer, you never hear of it again. They just fucking TAKE it. If there is even a little thing wrong with a shimpent, they call you immediately. Supposedly civilized, adult people in semi-responsible positions behaving as if in the stone ages. And that is the NORM.

If you ask me, I'd say conspiracies are just a part of human nature. The second you've got something good going on, there will be others waiting in the shadows to exploit it. Corruption is as strong an instinct as cooperation, which of course is absolutely central to our species. Even the most intricate conspiracies are no more mysterious or abnormal than a cat sneaking up on a bird. It is fundamental to our nature. To conspire, is to cooperate about corruption. Essentially organized crime. THE conspiracy would be organized white-collar crime. A high society mafia of con-men.
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 3:01 pm

RichardB wrote:
Going down there lookng for information is a lot like dumpster-diving. You're in a DUMPSTER. Most of what you'll find is worthless garbage. But SOME of it is VERY valuable. But fuck, it leaves a stink on you. And whatever you find is stinky. When you show it to people too soon, they are repulsed by the stink. Forget the dumpster, think "cesspool" for this one. Raw sewage.



Nice analogy and rather fitting.
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 4:11 pm

RichieB

That last post has helped me to better understand your previous posts. Definitely got me thinking. It makes me think of the Buddhist sect I (sort of) belong to. They seem to believe that knowing about all the ins and outs and history of the religion will aid me in coming closer to buddhahood. But I ask, How? And the answers are never really satisfying to me. Hence the reason I only 'sorta' practice that buddhism.

However, in defence of the subject of a planned new world order (in which our lives would be made to suck even more than they do)...

I will agree that one does NOT need to know how deep the rabbit hole goes. O.H makes reference to stuff that I seriously doubt most people will know the significance of (when he mentions the eagle being a phoenix, babylon and the parallel of 'degrees' in both the school system and free masonry etc etc), and I do think "Do they need to know that stuff?".

And I think the answer is no.

But, should EVERYBODY know that there is indeed an agenda to for them and their children to totally enslaved?

Yes. yes I do.

And I think that sometimes people need to see all those little stinky facts come out of the cesspool in order to realize this. A little bit at a time. Simply saying, DANGER, NWO AHEAD! won't do the trick in most cases. It wasn't enough for me. Which is why I researched it to the extent I have. And now I believe i KNOW. The downside being that I now stink like the cesspool too....

But again, you make a nice point.

PS - your avatar scared my girlfriend lol

Roadkill,

did you see that clip on Sharmanism by any chance? He says some stuff toward the end that made me think of your drum circle. Hope you had a great time by the way Smile

Mike,

Forgot to mention that towards the end of the original video I posted they talk a LOT about mainstream education (as in, your buccaneering scholars thread) So I hope you get your sound sorted out soon, it did actually make me think about your posts when I first saw it.
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PostSubject: Re: Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill   Put your Tinfoil hat on and prepare to take the Red Pill - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 09, 2009 6:14 pm

Oh I fukin hate my dumb brain.
Just wrote a decent reply then forgot to save it and then accidently lost it by changing page.

Learn from your mistakes! Don't be a dummy like the OH! jocolor

So the loss is great as I can't be arsed now...
I shall be short (ah, I love you all so much I wrote a long piece anyway):

Well Richie B and Mike and Sharif have posted while I was typing so now I will have to read you guys and edit this later.

"Personally I chuck away everything about secret societies, religion, magic, symbology and so on. Maybe there is gold there, but FUNCTIONALLY it's all red herrings to me. I am only interested in THE MECHANICS OF POWER."

Ha Ha! I like your thinking but this made me laugh. What do you think the Establishment types who are obsessed with power get up to? Sure, much Masonic ritual is silly but even that has a purpose, by design of the Architects.
Why did the powermad schemers invent religions and secret societes, occulted symbol sets and psychic training?
Magic is power. REligion is power. Heirarchies are power. Secrets are power. These things are how they channel it.

"Now there's no way in hell I can prove you or they wrong, or that you or they are right. But these authors almost always claim 'proof' of their opinions and predictions, and then fail to deliver it."

Erm... No. Prove? Like in a mathematical proof? A logic proof? So if I say that the FOI data on Op.Northwoods proves the Pentagon has planned to commit false-flag terrorism to instigate regime-changing invasion I am maybe paranoid? If I assert that is exactly what they did in 911, 777, 311 and the Bali holocaust then I am going too far?
The truth is in fact like a mighty duck. I can go every where and shitty water just slips off. There is no contamination in the honest mind. The truth separates itself by harmonic resonance and dissonance. There is no need to trust any given source.

"Scientific" "scepticism". It's not an efficient truth-finding style. It is not up to the Universe to prove to you its workings. They are obvious. It is up to you to SEE. You must move around and see from different viewpoints before you can see the elephant
It baffles me that smart people can find some comfort in a middle ground between the "Global Fascist Conspiracy" camp and the "No conspiracy" Media BS. The evidence is in your face, Fasces upfront in the US Congress.
The Elite tell us their genocidal slavery plans in public interviews, public books, public policy docs and legal statutes.
The Police in the America and Europe already have powers that would make Hitler and Stalin drool, they just have not fully employed them yet as it is not time.
Alex Jones (the Angry Jesuit) has tidal waves of proof of the rising police state and NWO depop agenda.
Alan Watt has endless depressing transcripts on Elite prescriptions for Edenic Perfection, minus us useless eaters of course.
They are both shills but so what?

To be honest I could point out and explain occult Elite symbols and coded messages and Alphabetic spells all day to you but I doubt much would stick if you don't have a fair and open attitude. A mindset unprejudiced... which is impossible but we can try to purify and be aware of our biases to accept the truth.

Take a given fact and notice if u will different viewpoints. You have to really accept a viewpoint to evaluate it. That's real entertainment! So how about the late Baron Rothschild's Zebra-drawn carriage? Is he just showing off? What is he trying to say? A clue is that it is the same as the checkerboards and duality stripes so popular for fashion model shoots... I hold back from that link as it is too much right now. Same message though, on those clothes-horses.

These authors like Edward Bulwer-Lytton's, 1871 novel The Coming Race, that influenced Hitler and the classic Brave New World are as far from nobodies as you can get. Huxley's family was in with Darwin and the Galtons. Inbreeding Rothschild style! The UN was led by one Huxley and another wrote the predictive programming.
Like the Warburg's running both sides of the spying and money in WW1. You know about that, right?
Have you studied the Rothschild family and can seriously debate the power dynamics of the Royal Dynasties, the Vatican, the Jesuits, the Masonic and other SecSocs, the socioeconomic factors?
What do we know of vampires and golems? From Dracula and Frankenstein. Who wrote them? Look into it. Initated Establishment Occultists. I would not need to say any of this if you were a member of the OTO. You would know. Yet you would be evil... they are a bunch of baby-fuckers. I met a young guy in the OTO once. He was full of hate.
This world is a puppet show. I can see the strings.

I suspect strongly the real reason most readers don't consciously accept many of the worst "theories" is because to emotionally realise the implications of our increasingly computerised nanotech global plantation
would scare the fukking shit out of them. And folk like their shit, they think it is gold and rosepetals.

Do you really think the people who carpet bomb cities wouldn't try to microchip your brain?
Of course they do! They are already putting fluoride and mutagenic chloride in the water and zapping you with microwaves, ELF and 100s of other insidious chemicals and GMO's, many designed to cause cancer or infertility. It's simply a matter of preparation for when the stars are right. I pray, never. I don't want more fear just awareness, seeing that the chems and rads could be scaled up a 100 fold at the flick of a switch, so we would do best to protect ourselves. Microwave activation of dormant virii anyone? Nanotech GE supercyberbugs up yo ass? Naaah, I don't fancy it either! So what are we gonna do?

Lord Bertrand Russel, revered Thinker, have you read his books? Racial genocide and Borg slavery are therein. Black n white. "disgusting but necessary" he claims. Yeah, right.
I have not read em but then I am the OH, so I don't need to. I just read excerpts usually and trust that most BS artists would not have the balls to misquote from a book anyone can download for free. It would not be long before their BS was called on in the "cesspool" as you guys so unfairly condemn it. I have the pdfs and can't be arsed to do thorough research, as I know intuitively they are not misquotes and it makes no sense that I've seen no-one correct them if they were.
See, that's honesty. I have read so many books by Elite control freaks it saps the fun out of my life. Gimme a break!
I want to read cool stuff by Buddha and Taoists and excellent science and social projects... but someone has to guard the flock. So I read about Luciferian/Satanic Mind Control of Civilisation until I become ill. Call me a martyr or mad if you like.
I am not trying to convert you here. I am refining my words and strategies for freedom.

Zbigniew Brzezinski. Heard of him? He's Obama official mentor. High enough? He was NSAdvisor to every Prez since Carter. He is a Rockefeller Thinker, Writer and Talker. Have you read his "Between Two Worlds: America's Role in the Technetronic Era"? Me neither! But again, I wouldn't be the OH if I did. Don't be lazy like me and have a pleasant tour through the mind of a pyscopathic Fascist, sorry "realist". Here's a link, the first relevant one for Technetronic on google.... http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/technetronicera.htm
it's a Christian site, quite esoteric and good actually, but that's totally irrelevant.
Here's another "dodgy" site that has a most reasonable review if it were not for the naive charity he gives to Zbig's final plans. Like he is saying "He plans to enslave all major nations into regions and exploit the 3rd world to death, but it's not a plan for Global Dictatorship cos he does not argue for a single world Govt.". Please... this a laughable view considering the postion fo Zbig, Obama and Rockefeller... they are very pro Global Gov. They all are. It's the Mob Way. No competition, Total syndication. Here it is http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13535

Here's the book at the superlative invaluable www.scribd.com. Sign up for free with an email addy and read til your eyes explode.. http://www.scribd.com/doc/7868533/BETWEEN-TWO-AGES-Americas-Role-in-the-Technetronic-Era
Some more docs to spell it out are just a google away. Read his the Grand Chessboard for his propaganda for the Crusades... Iran and Syria are next.

Readers who throw the baby out with the bathwater are being IDIOTIC.

All your words on the conclusions of the various messengers and their religious and other alternative beliefs are frankly embarrassing. Do you really think their opinions on the data are worth a damn? Just read the data and make your minds up for a working hypothesis or ten. To smear the internet as full of crap is damn foolish as what do you think you are writing on? Are you crap? No? Then why put off people from using the greatest resource known to man? You are doing the Censors work for them... sure Alex Jones is a sold-out to Satan*, Right-wing Christian nut appealer but so what? It is the data that mattters.
Then read some more ... I would say feel intuitively but that half of your brain seems to have got blocks... they can be sorted. At least I pray so because I have terrible lack of intuition yet I still can see much of the balance of truths.
Yes, I am damned sure of myself and thus the wrongness of complacent "scepticism"! It's called knowing your shit.
I am still baffled how someone can actually study the theories and then decide there is not enough evidence.
Have we been reading the same books? I think "sceptics" clutch at straws of rationalisation, suffering chronic "coincidence theory".

Sincere question: Are you one of those people who when confronted with the suggestion that the Govt is trying to kill or enslave you instead of being alarmed and concerned by the possibilty casually sneers "Where did you hear that? The Internet?", as if somehow the public, your friends, the books you have read or the Mass Media have got enough truth already, thanks? I pray you are above such.
The Media and Academia and Govt are so full of lies and foolishness I wonder where you lay your heads?

Well I shall type soon an answer to Sharif re psychotropics and the McKennas and consider whether I can be stuffed to do your work for you. I don't mean to be rude, he lied, but that's how it is. You are asking me to prove something to you you should be working at discerning for yourself and everybody anyway. You are intelligent, not some dumbass, so you have a duty to aid the ignorant and prosper the species, either that or kill us off asap before we cause more extinction. TBH I am very very tired and am not reassured that my efforts would be fruitful.

Anyway, be well, be cool, be whatever you are. I may diss your minds but I truly love your Spirit. elephant

*PS NB BTW Just cos I use inflammatory colloquialisms like "Satan" doesn't mean I am a simple naif like the Christians.
There are many levels and confusions of meaning. The Cow bears The Tiger and Tigress Twins who give birth to the Scorpion who bears the Centaur. Get it? Branches of the Tree, As Above So Below. The stars are where it is at.
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So, Sharif, you seek the Dharma? Sounds like the sect that concentrates on religious history is a bit duff.

For good info, probably damned hypocritical since the chap is a sell-out to money and the PRC Govt. (I may be the OH, but at least I don't finance railroads like some Rothschild), see Nan H'uai Chin/Jin. Working towards Enlightenment. Of course, I have not read it. But I know a man who has! I have some of his other work... and C.Luk's Taoist Yoga.

The reason why Zen and most Buddhism is deficient in attaining happiness and health is for one simple reason. They ignore the smelly sexy and shitty business of the body. Zen slaving away at hard labour is not enough. I am talking about relaxing into full-lotus with a purifying diet and lots of energy work to purify and transduce the emotions. Shit into gold.
Thinking you can stop thinking and feeling from enslaving your consciousness misses the mark. You need to feel the repressed emotions and let them flow, opening the meridians...
yet even the body is a trap. So all must be transcended. Or not. Shit happpens or Nothing really happens, depends on your point of view.

Yes, good question about what do the public "need" to know in order to awake into action response?

Well, I don't think the whole BabyloEgyptoGrecoRomano religious and imperial basis of modern culture can be hidden really. Once you look at the Corporate Symbols/Brands the Masonic themes of eyes, pyramids, squares, triangles and sun worship become evident. If one can't ponder the significance of the local Courthouse having a pyramid on top then I doubt that individual is other than a liability. There's a certain level of chutzpah, of moxie, of Hebraic cunning that is a bare minimum for not being led like a bull by the nose-ring.
Either you can see the whole damn thing is a Conspiracy of Cunning Cocks or not. The middle ground is thin. There is a spectrum of dogmas in the conspiratorial worldview but really they will all find the same truth in time, if they or the connecting Internet live that long
It is all connected. The food connects to the chemical leading to the drugs the mafia the CIA the media the Fascist genocides
(like we never cease hearing about the Holocaust but they don't tell you that actually more Roma were killed than "Jews" and they never ever admit what the word means. Words ought to be defined and comprehended. "Burnt sacrificial offering". It gives the Zionist and Sionist games away). The Matrix IS A Complex. Only by expanding our minds can we take in the cunning traps and stalking from the shadows we suffer from the bastards, as they are technically known. I like to call them Commie Bastards, just because it makes me sound American, and therefore righteous, right? Hahaha!
Ah.. I love Cold Steel knives. More for the cosy narcissistic feeling of their marketing hype than anything else! I lie! This is fun! It is actually cos they have damned good value for money cheapish blades. You could get a better one but it would cost more. Aaaaanyway... enough of my knife appreciation and back to the lack of public critical thinking.

Which is why I find I can't honestly comment much on any thing most folk say about the news, current affairs, the Govt., the economy... there are levels and dimensions of truth and the hoi polloi don't even have the context to get what I might say much of the time. Sure, a token tip on nutrition or other health matters is possible but politics? That's f'kin hopeless.
So I despair as I know few people have the patience to read half a dozen books at once these days.
They make out their time is so precious yet they waste it on TV when they could be widening and deepening and clarifying.

So most people are screwed. You, Sharif, and Mike may have realised you are the world but I doubt your neighbours have.

Hmmmm... it is a very important CRUCIAL VITAL Question. Good one, S.
Let us contemplate what the masses would need to breach the threshhold of mind and open up to the scary realities of Animal Farm on Ge. Intuition? Rhetoric, oratory, media facts?

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RichardB, now I completely understand what you meant in your previous post. About human nature in terms of loyal/corrupt, and especially about diving into the cesspool to find nuggets. If you pardon the pun.

Needed to say that before I read the next posts. I'll edit accordingly Smile

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But, should EVERYBODY know that there is indeed an agenda to for them and their children to totally enslaved?

Yes. yes I do.

And I think that sometimes people need to see all those little stinky facts come out of the cesspool in order to realize this. A little bit at a time. Simply saying, DANGER, NWO AHEAD! won't do the trick in most cases. It wasn't enough for me. Which is why I researched it to the extent I have. And now I believe i KNOW. The downside being that I now stink like the cesspool too....

I think you're right. But for me this is where misanthropology comes in. Honestly my respect for the intelligence of most individuals in our society is somewhere near nil. I respect them, don't get me wrong, but for different attributes than questioning the state of our country (or, should I say, civilisation?).


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O.H., i'm presuming your first reply (top of the two above), was mainly aimed at me?

For me to draw such bile, and in some places downright offensiveness, I must have hit a nerve somewhere. Perhaps your ego, perhaps your sense of place (politically or intellectually).

Please let me suggest that you cool off slightly. To some extent you can insult your audience, but don't forget that it's our attention that allows you the soapbox on which you stand. If we stop listening, you will not exist.

I don't wish anything to be personal, I just don't want this discussion to end any time soon and I really am making the suggestion for everyones good. Progress might get made here.
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Mike2010 wrote:
O.H., i'm presuming your first reply (top of the two above), was mainly aimed at me?

For me to draw such bile, and in some places downright offensiveness, I must have hit a nerve somewhere. Perhaps your ego, perhaps your sense of place (politically or intellectually).

Please let me suggest that you cool off slightly. To some extent you can insult your audience, but don't forget that it's our attention that allows you the soapbox on which you stand. If we stop listening, you will not exist.

I don't wish anything to be personal, I just don't want this discussion to end any time soon and I really am making the suggestion for everyones good. Progress might get made here.

Yes, I admit I have too hot a liver. I sorely miss having somewhere to hang my punchbag. Mea culpa.
It's as well we are not 18th Century Gents or you ight want to be meeting me at dawn!
I'd choose pistols Wink
You are most kind and quite sensiblle. I shall accede to your prod after a a few more playful taps.
I can live with any outcome. It is right that we talk on. If you run away that is your choice!

The nerve you hit is this: If we, you and me and a heavens knows how many other people will be needed, do not radically increase our awareness of the political reality in the next 2 years at most to summon the courage to fight and keep fighting despite the casuaities and the pain and the exhaustion until we fuc-king kill the Philosopher-Priest-Kings and their enslavement programs then I for one will be making a get away trip to the wilds where I will ignore the pain of the world until I can't anymore and then, the end. Seppuku. or maybe I will be cool with the agony and just swim in the river until I can't.
Because the life of humans will not be worth living then... martial law is only bearable when you hope that it might end. This time round they are playing for keeps. It's a bloody war and people are debating shit on keyboards! Tragic.

Sincerely, I am sorry to offend you. "I" thought "you" could handle it without upset. Just some bighead dissing everyone online out of frustrated inadequacy, you might say. No worries.
Seriously. You were insulted? By what? Did you find my implication that you were e.g.at times a coward offensive? Why be upset? Why take it personally? Why be predictable? Either I am right or wrong or both. Have you never been a coward? I have. Not a reason for shame. Just history.
Seriously. Perhaps you would tell me how exactly I offended you? Or we could pass over my bad mood. I did not intend to cause you suffering any more than necessary to wake the fuck up to the Nazis. Enlightenment Nirvana is a different matter. For all I know you are far advanced than me in that regard. I have noticed that despite some folk's humble wisdom they still fall none the less for all many of BS that the Social Engineers have banged together like steel mantraps.

It is personal. Whether or not we buy into some worldview or find a way to be free and healthy without fixed belief IS ENTIRELY PERSONAL. It is a civilised conceit to deny unpleasant dissonance and the weakness of ignorance that pretends objectivity and relative equality. A Conspiracy of Silence, like the political parties. They agree to not mention each other's fatal faults to keep the cyclical game going. Human life is subjective and personal.
Essentially what I am saying is since noone is perfect why not throw stones? Call me the Anti-Christ if u like but I don't find conspiracy to mutually erm... "admire" each other particularly productive. I would rather honestly criticize.
So call me a di-ck if you like. If I bite then I am the sucker.
Waking up is not a nice experience. It is a horrible nightmaRE. I don't see how shit can be made to smell like roses.
I honestly think that the number one factor in denial of archconspiracy theories is not objective fact or any other of various pyschosocial processes other than FEAR. Straightforward fear of the reality, the consequences of such a massive Jackboot stomping. If we pretend the SS aren't evil and don't need to be stopped then maybe we will be safe and won't feel bad.
Doesn't work, never has, never will. I can understand you might feel offended if I said, presuming much since I don't actually know what you think on stuff, that you were an ostrich but it would still be an egoic wounding.The ego is the problem, not the insult. My opinion but never mind... I can keep it to myself.

So are you suggesting you might progress in a better different way than you might have if you weren't listening to me? Ooh! The power! I rush to be nice so I can rant some more ... nah! I give a another kick to see what kinda shit you got left.
Yeah, I have got bile. It is from spending 20 years knowing it was Satan's shit that society was trying to force down my neck.
From watching the groundwork for the extinction of human freedom being laid like clockwork. They have suffered so little aware and effective resistance I would be ashamed to be human if it were not for the less than 1% who are doing a half-decent job. So I am pissed off and extremely short of sleep. It is up to you too if this dish is not palatable. Takes two to tango, a taster for a taste. I gots garlic, ginger and chilli and vinegar. Too strong?

We are all adults here, right?

OK. Gloves back on...
So, you would like one of those respectful civilised talks. I can fake that.
Like I said, I love and admire you. Know who your friends are, matey.

I apologise for offending you
and accept your invitation to converse further on this most important subject, other than unity consciousness wisdom itself, bless it's mysterious ways.
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