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 "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron

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PostSubject: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptySun Oct 11, 2009 11:57 pm

This is good:

Sunday, October 11, 2009

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Another metaphor, or maybe a string of metaphors. A
wise man, Mac, once said to me during a short conversation about the
finer points of professional intimidation: “I want him to look into my
eyes and see the price of admission.”
I love that line.

If you crunch the numbers, it is impossible for a small woman to resist a committed attacker. He
will be stronger, bigger, have surprise and a plan on his side. (Trust
me, in general, a threat will rarely pick a larger, stonger, more alert
victim. That’s not the way the game is played.) Purely crunching the numbers, the victim doesn’t have a chance.
But victims have won. Many, many times they have fought their way to safety or scared off or incapacitated the threat. Statistics
are statistics, but I have heard or read that fighting back increases a
women’s chance of escaping unharmed by 50-80%. Full
disclosure, (this is from memory, so don’t quote me) one of the studies
in the eighties reckoned that fighting back increased the chances of
getting away unharmed by about 80% but also increased the chances of
being killed by 13%. Tell me if we need a short post on reading statistics.
So
what’s going on? The math (size + strength + predator surprise) of what
should happen in an assault doesn’t match observations from the field.
So here’s the metaphor- in any conflict each party is willing to risk a certain amount of chips. If the other party raises beyond what the other is willing to risk, they have the advantage. It’s a clumsy metaphor and I already hate it. It implies bluffing, but this is very real. It implies that only the chips on the table count, but the cards matter too.
Still, bear with it a little bit. When
a rabbit turns on a fox and drives it off, it isn’t because the fox
couldn't beat the rabbit; the fox leaves because he doesn’t want to pay
the price to stay in the game. The fox, the
predator, the threat makes a mental note of the risk they are going to
take, what they are willing to do to take down this rabbit or that
co-ed. They have estimated the price of admission. When
the price goes up, they often leave (and this gets messy, too, because
sometimes it can trigger a rage reaction as their manhood is put into
question. If I can pretend the statistics are all about my little
metaphor, raising the stakes works about 80% of the time and backfires
about 13%). If the threat is surprised enough to freeze, the rabbit-turned-feral can not only escape, but destroy the threat.
Just a thought. I like the image of raising the stakes. When
you are accustomed to a penny-ante, nickel limit game it just makes
sense to walk away from the guys playing for rent money and paychecks.
But another reason to hate the metaphor- it sounds too much like Marc MacYoung’s ‘escalado’. Not the same thing at all, and the metaphor works better for escalado then for this…
But do you see it? There
is size, strength, skill, speed and ruthlessness… but there is also an
ability to take this conflict to a level that the other party isn’t
prepared for. You want to chip your teeth and
try to intimidate and I’m willing to put you face down in the concrete…
who is going to win? Still want to play? You want to push and shove and I want to break bones and joints? You want a good old-fashioned fistfight and the knife appears in my hand?
Achilles
and Hector- Hector was a good, noble man, possibly the best human being
in the Iliad, and he was willing to kill, to risk his life and fight to
the death. Achilles wanted to humiliate Hector’s dead body and drag it
around the walls of Troy. Who won? There
are higher levels you can take conflict to, and as long as you leave a
face-saving out, once you raise it too high the threat may walk away. But god help you if he was willing to call and you were only bluffing.
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyMon Oct 12, 2009 6:41 pm

Thanks Maija. I check his blog regularly (along with a few others Wim etc) & looked on sat, so missed this. Always raises thought provoking issues, this man. His last entry, it would appear he is going for a new job, in some area of law enforcement? I wonder what & I am looking forward to finding out. (Am I sad? Probably.)

I still reccommend his book unreservedly. The bibliography alone has kept me entertained for 6 months as I have tracked down his sources & moved on from them to other suggested reads. "Gift of Fear" I ended buying from Amazon & again very informative read. I was going to draw some parrallels between Sexual predator/ abusive partner techniques & tactics & the PUA/The Game strategies, in a post at some point. The similarities are quite obvious.
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 7:54 pm

This isnt his clearest bit of writing but the topic is ,as always seems to be the case with this chap, very relevant
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 7:58 pm

Hello Mr Grannon. Hope you had a nice weekend. Been quiet, having a good time? Or work, work, work?
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 8:02 pm

Blakops wrote:
Hello Mr Grannon. Hope you had a nice weekend. Been quiet, having a good time? Or work, work, work?

Workin laa ... fun is bad for you- haha!

Im moving to the East in 2 weeks so have to set streetfightsecrets up to run smoothly while Im over there
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 8:39 pm

The East as in The Orient, or the East as in Hull?
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 8:51 pm

Is this South-east asia? Or Eastern Europe.

Have a good time mate whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron   "The Price of Admission" - by Chiron EmptyTue Oct 13, 2009 8:56 pm

Richard Grannon wrote:
Blakops wrote:
Hello Mr Grannon. Hope you had a nice weekend. Been quiet, having a good time? Or work, work, work?

Workin laa ... fun is bad for you- haha!

Im moving to the East in 2 weeks so have to set streetfightsecrets up to run smoothly while Im over there

'Moving'? Sounds like more than a holiday...
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