Models for Verbal Confrontiation

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I was listening to the verbal confrontaional cd over the weekend and started to think about a few fictional characters that possably be modeled of verbal confrontiation.

A few came to mind but not many.

Sherlock Homes, James Bond, House (mind games) and maybe the Jedi Knights.

I'm just throwing out some ideas.

Subject: Re: Models for Verbal Confrontiation Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:19 pm

These are'nt the fictious characters your looking for.....He can go about his business...move along Very Happy

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Hannibal Lecter (he made Miggs swallow his tongue after Miggs chucked his spunk in Agent Starlings face just by speaking to him)

Brick Top from Snatch (Alan Ford, the chap from my video intro "'ave a look, judge for yourself, you cant")

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Blakops wrote:

These are'nt the fictious characters your looking for.....He can go about his business...move along Very Happy

Sorry that I'm late in replying, but can you tell me why these characters might not be good models for Verbal confortation? Maybe I Should have said Verbal Ingagement. I feel the House is interesting for the verbal exrchanges between House & the others, if not for the deductive skills of the characters.

Subject: Re: Models for Verbal Confrontiation Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:57 pm

Because they are not threatening perhaps? Ritchie's examples have palpable air of menace & use language to achieve nefarious aims.

Perhaps yours are a little too.....pleasent, less manipulative? My reply was only in jest & I thought the vid was cool.

Too be completely honest, I have not heard the verbal CD but I think I can guess why Rich gave those as examples.

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Blakops wrote:

Because they are not threatening perhaps? Ritchie's examples have palpable air of menace & use language to achieve nefarious aims.

Perhaps yours are a little too.....pleasent, less manipulative? My reply was only in jest & I thought the vid was cool. Too be completely honest, I have not heard the verbal CD but I think I can guess why Rich gave those as examples.

The reason why some of these fictious characters came to mind was because on the CD Richie mentioned at one point on that in western civilisation we don't have many characters that celebrate talking and negotiating ways out of problems and I've challenged myself to come up with a few and those ones were the only ones that I've come up with so far everyone is wecome to suggest others.

At the moment I have not started to model anyones attributes just yet, because I'm working on my own foundations before I start to model the attributes & skills of others.

Plus some, if not a lot of people involved in Martial Arts/Combative & outside of what we do probably feel even more anxious about verbal ingagement with their boss, friends, family members, women (no offence to any female members of the forum) and even just standing up for ones self. Basically, I know that I cannot deal with every situation physically, I've come to the conclusion that I may just have a model for different social situations; ie one for work, one for public speaking & presentation, one for just chilling out and socialising; and then the one for confrontation.

Sometimes what people need to remember is that you don't have to model the whole god damme thing, just parts of it.

For example, you can model Robert De Nero's Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver and his Rightious Indignation if you wanted to; but just leave out the social inepitude and mental instablity.

In House, I feel the the deductive skills of the characters, especially House (his deductive abillities & his lack of fear to break the rules when he needs to) might be a really handy attribute to model; but not the way he treats people.

I'm gonna leave this post today with a quote that I'm sure everybody is familiar with.

"Use only that which works, and take it from any place you can find it"
Bruce Lee

Subject: Re: Models for Verbal Confrontiation Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:59 am

I am afraid that I haven't heard the confrontation Cd's, my reply was simply a quote by obi-wan, twisted to fit my bad humour & the vid made me laugh.

I should email Rich and ask if you are really unsure. As I say I have no idea what the theory is , so even less of an idea how to express it. Which means if I start talking I'm going to be making it up.

I am just about to listen to the core visualisation Cd, myself

Sorry dude.