Thanks Richie, that's a pretty extensive list! I've already studied some CBT and transactional analysis; in fact, 'The Games People Play' is one of my favourite books! Do you think that, when Berne talks about becoming autonomous, he's pertaining to enlightenment? I think that all these modes of thought, technique and discipline are essentially 'different paths up the same mountain' (as C.S. Lewis wrote on the true essence of religion), which is one of the many reasons your methodology is so appealing to me - i.e. it combines many paths. Please don't misinterpret that quote, I abhor fundamentalist religions and their zealotry but believe that all the original teachings are basically metaphors for self development and enlightenment, perverted over time to the whim of the fevered egos that currently run this mess.
Anyway, I digress, thank you for the advice on learning NLP (Neurotic Lumbering Pricks, Nightmarish Labia Pustule, Naked Labotomy Prescription); I've just ordered 'Steps to an Ecology of the Mind', 'Tricks of the Mind', 'Manhood of Humanity', 'Awaken the Giant Within' and something someone else recommended to me called 'Fuck It: The Ultimate Spiritual Way'. I'll let you know how it goes.
Lastly, I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed your audio CDs recently, particularly 'Blank Face' which I listened to just after I last posted on the forum. Do you have any plans to do any more that include so much on fundamental psychological principles? Either way, it's like you said on the 'Psychology of Violence' CD: you're speaking directly into our heads that way and it can be pretty powerful stuff! I think the combination of DVD with audio courses is a really good direction, especially for imparting large chunks of information and creating and anchoring states. Loving your work!

thanks mate, yes, new Audio material and new DVDs are in development as we speak

seeking to both re emphasise the basic principles and push the boundaries

I've been reading Derren Browns book and his critical analysis of NLP. He touches on the subject of Modelling and says it has it's uses but in certain areas it's been demonstrated that NlPers modelling the unconscious processes of Someone with particular skills has been no more fruitfull than someone without NLP knowledge modelling behaviour, and no quicker.

For a few years I was trying to get answers regarding modelling but people down the Gym don't really want you a)bugging them with lots of questions and b) stealing thir secrets. One of the great things about SFS is the questions i was seeking were answered really well. Now when it comes to fighting I believe that you need to model deeper than just the behavioural level so i can see NLP coming in very handy. Does modelling really have a lot of uses in different areas or has Derren nailed it? I ask because i learned this (NLP, modelling) from Tony robbins' book, unlimited power. while it is a great book I now read that Mr. Robbins, Mckenna ETC have reused claims that were way overhyped in the first place. I never really got much results on my own with the little knowledge that i gained from that book (regarding modelling) so have i been chasing after something that i needn't have bothered chasing? Can you really get the results that Mr. Robbins and others claim you can achieve?

On another tip, Rapport.

I read that by doing this (matching body language, breathing, words, tonality blah blah blah) you can really connect with anyone, in minutes and have "influence" over them. I personally am uncomfortable with the idea of using something to influence another person for selfish gain and as such didn't really use this to any great degree. It seems that almost everyone these days is matching and mirroring and it really fucks me off to be honest. It's obviously no substitute for personality and most of the time looks really unnatural. I've actually laughed out load when people have been so blatent that they look like twats and find myself conciously rearanging my body language to break rapport when this happens. Anyway, obviously i have no problem with mirroring naturally occuring through genuine interest but just wondered if this was an area of NLP that has been overhyped by the salesmen ?

Ive not forgotten your pms mr technics, many folk are emaling me saying they want more info on "soft skills"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_skills

matching and mirroring are cheap and faintly ridiculous ways of building rapport but they CAN sometimes work ... if applied after doing about 5 other things to build rapport first, they are icing NOT cake- Richard Bandler has openly poured contempt on "rapport bulding" techniques for a long time as being a "sideline suggestion" to use for a few minutes with difficult clients

their is a much better, more powerful, more sincere way of building deep rapport very rapidly outlined in my cd "Blank Face" if you cant make a total stranger say
"I dont know why Im telling you this..."
or
"I dont know why but I feel like Ive know you for ages..." within 10 minutes of using it, I'll refund you...

smug manipulative car salesman that I am nah, seriously it is powerful stuff but if you lack that two key ingredients of "social intelligence" and "common sense" NOTHING you learn WILL WORK



I agree with Derren about modelling BUT at least NLP gives you a framework to break the modelling process down specficially- if you ask the right questions and pay attention it works really, really well

ask the right questions

pay attention

in fact... thats the answer to everything

The only view of NLP I've had is from the clips released by Richard on Youtube. It helped me through my post traumatic stress from watching my best friend kill herself better than anything else. Now that I finally have money and want to buy the whole DVD's, I find that they aren't for sale, and the clips are no longer on Youtube. If anyone wants to sell me them, send me files, link me to videos, whatever... The name doesn't matter, but the content means more to me than anything. Richie and Bob sitting on the couch, talking, was absolutely amazing, and I would love to see/hear it again.

alright Korox

you might want to be a bit subtle about infringing my copyright on my forum

and you should really post an intro in the general section

thankyou

Heh, sorry dude.

I meant the little clips I had seen released by the Youtube account Streetfightsecrets, which I assume is you. I would prefer to buy the whole thing, of course, but I would also be happy with the snippets which were free... and I assume still would be, just no longer available in the same location. Sorry 'bout the miss communication there. Totally my bad.