Ah, yes indeed ....
“Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.” Horace Walpole

Ain't THAT the truth.

The phenomenon is as old as fart.

I prefer to laugh.

But speaking of the matrix. There was another "rabbithole" down in "wonderland." I was following this rabbit - well rat... but rabbit sounds nicer - which led to another matrix entirely. Where even the grand conspiracies are only programs.

As a single organism back in the old days, life was harsh and the margins were small between life and death. Many were eaten or starved to death. Those who didn't lived and procreated because they had certain tendencies. This was reinforced again and again over time.

Those who grouped up and cooperated increased their survivability considerably. But the margins were still small between life and death. And if you could cheat the group for more than your fair share, you'd fare better.

Let's talk about MORALITY. I call morality a survival instinct. The tribal instinct is so fundamental to our species that we have great difficulty percieving the world outside of those terms. So morality. GOOD VS EVIL

It is the ancient dilemma.

An older version of it is; selfishness Vs. altruism. Hmm... "selfishness" ... Listen to how the word itself almost spits itself off of the tounge when you say it. A presupposition of it being wrong is built into the very core of the word. That says something about the human tribal instinct. But there you have it. Good and evil.

Good and evil is irrelevant without other people. Good and evil revolves around the tribal instinct.

Cooperation and recoprocity Vs. Corruption and exploitation.

It revolves around resources and danger.

As a creature, you need to eat and avoid being eaten. Others can share their food with you and take chances to aid you against danger. WHY would they do that? Because you'd do the same for them. That is the expectation. That is the soul of the tribe. That is good.

In a harsh world with small margins separating life from death you cannot afford parasites to leech on you. Taking but never giving.

Evil is the parasite and the predator.

Good is he who helps you - Evil is he who harms you. That is level one, but it goes further.

Good is he who supports and reinforces the TRIBAL SYSTEM - Evil is he who selfishly exploits it, threatening it.

But there is more. High evil is in forming a exploitative and destructive (ENEMY) tribe, secretly WITHIN the tribe. Even more evil is doing it while having them trust you to be highly beneficial to the tribe.



Evil is how dangerous something is to you, compounded by how safe it decieves you to feel about it.

Good is how beneficial to you something is, componded by how it consistently surprises you by helping you despite all logic.


Both motivate you to reciprocate. Harm evil, assist good.


Parasites and predators by definition are ineffective as groups by this model. Evil must feed on good or feed on itself. An evil tribe cannot gain the full benefits of being a tribe by it's own. Each take more than they pay for, and have more power that way. But the collective power of a good tribe is always higher, because true power comes from cooperation and organization. BUT... a good-tribe host can hold evil tribes together for the duration of it's existence.

This is where ultimate evil enters the picture. Beyond the wolf hunting the sheep, there is the SHEPHERD. Domesticating the entire species. Mongrelizing it and safeguarding it as a permanent resource, so there is always "a good tribe" to feed off and hold together the parasite tribe. Cultivation; manipulation of the species and making it dependant on the shepherd. - That would be your conspiracy mastermind.


This DEFINES the meaning of what is good and what is evil as I see it. And in doing so we have also established that morality IS - simply put - an extension of entirely SELFISH survival instinct. In reality there is no such thing as good and evil, right or wrong. There is only danger, benefit and pragmatism.

The tribal instict is so fundamental to the human that it is difficult to avoid percieving the world according to tribal terms. But the truth is we are INDIVIDUAL ORGANISMS. At least functionally in relation to you and me. And from THAT point of view, there is ONLY danger, benefit and what is pragmatic to do. So evil isn't really EVIL, it's just SELFISH, and so is GOOD, but then by extension.

Nature is the REAL matrix. The world is the way it is because of the way it is.

Damn I'm on a roll here, but I must go and haul some tons of vegetables for a few hours, YAAY.

Nix,

It's all cool mate

Danite,

That's very interesting actually. I'm gonna see if I can get time (and the mental energy) to look into the subject.

RichardB,

Dude... your posts made my brain feel like it's done two hours of circuit training. But I believe I understand where you are coming from. Truth is, I must be a Zork too, as I also deliberately stand still or walk the other way from the emotionally-driven, howling, charging crowd (believe it or not). I don't get 'caught up' in things. I've always been able to detach and observe in all things I'm 'involved' in.

It seems you are talking about the grand scheme of the universe also, in which case, yes everything is perfectly fine as it is

You know your writing was particularly poetic in parts... you wouldn't happen to be sitting there surrounded by a haze of a particular kind of smoke, would you?

Richard B well that was one of the better written diatrabes I have read I would agree in general with your comments.However I would add, sometimes there are conspiracies, sometimes they are indeed real, however they tend to be specific and no where near as general as the professional conspiracy theorists would have us believe.

I really enjoy your writing RichB - that was indeed an awesome vomit of insights ..

RichB, i meant you wer'nt convincing me my time would be well spent, re the vid. Nice post btw.

official hypocrite, is it 2 or 3 years before your apocalypse happens? Only, I had some long term plans & I need to know if I should bring them forward.

Official Hypocrite is my hero

As Richie Grannon said - having only been researching the truth(s) for less than a year - I waded into battle unprepared. But you say you've been researching this for over 20 years, O.H? Blimey.
It's funny, I'm familiar with everything you are talking about, and yet I couldn't find the...err...energy(?) to spill it all out into a post like that. So five stars for finger-strength alone for all the typing And at 2am too (It would seem you're a Brit too)

I suspect your posts will stir it up a little bit here in this thread. But this is a good thing, maybe we can all take something away from it (which was the purpose of my original posting). The question is whether people open up or close up (mentally). It's like what they say in Aikido (which may or may not be true), about how if you use too much force to defeat an opponent, they will resist more. Or something like that. Some people respond to debate to clinging harder to their beliefs and views, and some folk stay soft and open to both the other side of the argument (whilst maintaining a grip on common sense)

I wonder if asking people to use intuition is a long shot? For many, intuition (not necessarily being based on the five senses) is often not 'scientific' enough to be given any credibility (that's not directed at anyone here in particular BTW)

On the subject of predictions, I too am quite proud to say that I was talking about the subject of viruses/plagues being released just two weeks before swine flu hit the world. Many people were. Not being too clued up on the nature of bio-weapons I did attempt to prepare by buying some masks and surgical gloves and bottles of hand sanitizer 8 days before it's release. My other half was curious about why I was buying the stuff but I didn't want her to be afraid so I avoided answering. When it hit the news 8 days later she did a bit of a jaw-drop when I said "that's why".

I also question why 2012 is being fear-fueled in the mainstream media. It would seem we are certainly being prepped for something.

Anyway, good stuff my friend. Thanks for coming in on the discussion and welcome to the forum

Sharif, your condescension astounds, I'm done.

Don't worry, Sharif, Nix is just suffering a bit of egoic Normalitis. It is not our job to cure him though it would be good to have a helpful human around rather than just another "lifestyle chooser". Your "condescention" has offended his ego. Didn't you know people rarely like being told they are wrong? So let him train. When a EuroRiotCop points his taser at innocent ladies in some chaotic street looting or mass protest (HelterSkelter Babylonian Madness) I am sure Nix will have some kung fu fabulous solution ready to save the day. Like in the movies. In the nick of time Nix will nix Old Nick with Ninja knives and being well hard.

Or maybe not. Indeed I don't think the Elite are much worried about gun toting "survivalists" or "Rebel freedom fighters" as last time I checked APC's were still bullet-proof. Soldiers will be: Foreign race; Elitist Sadists; Trained Cyborgs. If they aren't actually chipped they will be drugged and remotely MK'd (controlled with infra/ultra/audible sonics and Radio waves, in microwave and ELF bands). So we are gonna have big trouble winning a ground war... best bet is to stop martial law happening. Preemptive strikes! Box clever...

The Nix's opinion is sadly disregarded in quality control. He doesn't seem to think the question of Government Repression and Genocide is very important and so has not cultivated an educated or intuitive view that's worth a damn.

Intuition. Yes, highly programmed against for millenia. Making a come back though we may have to rely on logical foolery for a while. Logic was handed to the West by Parmenides who said he got it from a Goddess who said it was to prove Unity. All is One.
So all the Tech we make using Logic is blasphemy.

I ASK YOU: WHAT IS IT THAT KNOWS SOMETHING IS TRUE? WHY GO THROUGH STEPS OF "LOGIC" BASED ON SENSE DATA, RELYING ON INTUITION THROUGHOUT TO TELL US YES/NO, INSTEAD OF SIMPLY USING INTUITION ALONE, TO START WITH, PURE AND UNTOUCHED BY THOUGHTS?

BTW I would not worry about the Plagues. Be healthy and stock up on bug killers, antioxidants, seeds, survival information...
a virus will go through surgical gloves like a flea thru a string vest. Best to kill the bugger on contact. So be ALIVE and practise Chi Kung. I recommend the simplest Spring Forest Chi Kung. Acidophilus. Garlic. Vit C and E (mixed with tocotrienols). Zinc. Selenium. Fresh air and limited chemical and EMF pollution, You know?

The problem with Nix is the same with most people, INCLUDING MYSELF, which is that the present way of life in the West is just too comfy and narcotic and DOMESTICATED. The shit that happened in the past is a distant shadow to younger folk nowadays. The TV is bad but even without Media massage our brains are encouraged to be spongebob squarepants crap.

Simply put, most people are highly directed by their environment. If there are no immediate severe threats (tigers, gunmen, runaway cars etc) folk tend to switch off as if they won't die any minute and there are no dangers to be aware of.
So the Fabian Fathers have an easy go at hypnotising the profane (that's you).

Remember, KILL YOUR TV and
Hollywood and almost all Mass Media, especially TV, is designed to PROGRAM YOU into Predictability. Don't be too predictable. A murder mystery is not primarily there for your entertainment. It is just another Masonic mindfuk conditioning the viewers to be malleable cattle. It's quite complex in execution but artfully simple in design.

The best you can do is to relax and develop your sense of intuition. Patricia Einstein has a good book on it.
Laters.

O.H, again I agree with your world-views... on consciousness, natural immune supporters, killing the TV etc.

But I would not agree that the folk of this forum are fools. There was only one 'fool' here and he's left the forum now. These guys are very intelligent people. There may be those who live deeply within the mainstream/matrix/whatever. But most people do in this day and age, unfortunately (as you know of course).

You obviously have a lot of great stuff to share, and I'd like to hear more of what you have to say. But getting personal with folk wont get you very far on this forum, mate.

Again, I know EXACTLY what point it is you are trying to make and exactly why it is that you get worked up about it... but there are certain ways of communicating that just cause people to stop listening. Know what I mean?

Anyway, did you watch the video in the original post by any chance? What did you think?

Official Hypocrite, I am by no means resulting to Ad Hominem to debate your arguments, but I have the sense that all is not right here, and that you have an agenda. You talk of intuition, I am simply stating mine.

No offense meant. You raise a lot of interesting points, some of which I agree with.

And we can both agree that it's possible I agree with all of them (or none of them) but it makes little difference to either of us, either way.


Sharif, thanks for redeeming yourself and standing up.. For a minute then I thought that you were going to go under, and possibly tuck under OH's wing. Nothing here is physical, or of impact on out 'real' lives.

None of us here has any power over the others. Or do they?


We are simply statements written on a PC monitor. You've presented your views for the good of any reader, not any particular readers. You can take the horse to water, but you can't make it drink.. etc.

Based on that though we all have our own framework of reality by which we interpret others' statements. We can't have any alliances or similarities based on loyalty or emotions - I'll defend a point if I agree with it, in case I can explain it well enough that suddenly a reader will see it in a different light.
But i'm not hoping to change their reality, they'll do that themselves. And more often than not, my reality is changed. I suppose that's progress, but not in a certain direction as we don't share a common map.


I'm very confused though. I feel that there is a fair bit of manipulation and trickery going on here, but whether that is my preception of reality changing (in terms of being resistant to new claims of the World Order), or a genuinely bizzarre manipulation thing, we'll never know.

It's odd, that's for sure. OH, when I read your posts I feel like i'm hang-gliding over hell.




And if the world is going to descend into chaos, I'm going to stock up on porn.

Erm anyway, just had a shower and was thinking about stuff, and then it dawned on me that we are the world. Or, I am the world. Everything that I peceive around me, well it isn't me. I am all that is, that was, and ever will be.

Jeez, must be sleep deprevation. I'm gonna piss myself when i see this tomorrow.